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ChicKat,
You rock! Thanks for all the resources.
Aloha, Puhi
You rock! Thanks for all the resources.
Aloha, Puhi
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
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Oh - BTW, if you haven't visited this site yet, it is really interesting
http://kippenjungle.nl/basisEN.htm#berkenEN
And the chicken calculator made by Henk69 on BYC - you can play around with some color combinations - such as recessive white, dominant white, and barring and see what you could come up with -- Of course it is a computer program and based on the dominant and recessive etc. and what you KNOW -- there is a lot you don't know in the birds genetics...
Henk is a genius here is another of the calculators
http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator
ETA - Okay-- after putting up that link...I went to the Chicken calculator -- Tim Adkerson had given me some genetic information regarding Cream Legbars -- long time ago....
Crested Cream legbar (CCL) are wild type (gold duck wing), sex linked barred, and carry the cream gene. They also carry a form of autosomal red.
and the genes he listed are e+/e+, s+/s+, B/B or B/w, w/w, Id/Id or Id/w, Cr/Cr, O/O -- the Id, Cr and O don't show on the chicken calculator...
Plug these genes in -- or start with the gold duckwing and add barring B/Bfor the male; B/- for the female s+/s+ for gold, and ig/ig for cream....when you calculate you will get an image of the Cream legbar that some are calling 'gold' - Then go to the S-locus and swiitch out the s+/s+ for S/S and you will get the cream legbar that some are calling 'true' because of genetics....but actually..... it's silver.
Go to the barring genetics B-locus and switch B/B to B^sd/B^sd and look at what happens. A female of this genetics has what is called ghost barring and it is very rare but the male appears WHITE SO if your female haS ghost barring -- perhaps that is the source of the white CLs- but I haven't heard of ghost barring so I doubt that it is....isn't that just fascinating?
ETA - GaryDean26 sent me this better/newer version of Henk's chicken calculator - you can enter Cr and O/O and ID for shank color etc.-- so it is a fuller picture of the chicken, however the PLUMAGE color doesn't vary because that isn't decided by the shank, crest and egg color genetics...BTW and if you click on the Punnett square thing etc. you can see how many chicks you need to hatch to get what you want, and the liklihood of that -- if, for example you have one that is crestless and you want to develop crests....
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingCQ.html?mgt=&fgt=&
I believe that is the case...certainly if you switch the chicken calculator between silver and gold as the basis - the gold basis which is supposed to be the make up of the CL -- is more like the appearance than the silver based one. (does that make sense?) ;O)Very interesting so according to this the Cream Legbars we have are actually closer to standard than the ones that are being put forward as correct?