EMERGENCY - Lethargic after Fluid Draining

micstrachan

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Greetings. So my Ruby has been treated with hormones for over two years now. So far, she has responded well to treatment. She has some sort of undefined, hormone-driven disorder that causes ascites. In her case, the ascites is compartmentalized pretty deep.

Yesterday the avian vet contacted me to let me know they were finally being trained on their new ultrasound device and would I like an ultrasound of Ruby's belly free of charge? Of course, I accepted. When I picked Ruby up, the vet said she did great, and they drained off over 500mL, since they could see exactly where the fluid was. Ruby was alert, but calm, and the vet said she was still on valium (diazepam). The vet also said she should feel a LOT better.

Well, Ruby has declined. She has been open mouth breathing with her tail down, and won't touch feed or water, or even her favorite treats. When we got home from my work this afternoon (I had to go back to work for a bit after picking Ruby up), she put herself to bed in a nesting box. I offered baby bird formula and raw egg, and she was having no part of that.

Ruby is STILL dripping fluid, two hours after I picked her up, and that's after the 500+mL drain. I am worried. I've read conflicting reviews on whether "too much" fluid can be drained. While Ruby's abdomen was huge and tight, and she moved around slowly, she still had her tail up, ate, drank, preened, talked and pooped. I knew whatever she has would eventually kill her, but would not have put her through that today if it was going to be her last day. Hopefully I'm just being dramatic. I'm working my last hour at home outside and will let her rest while her sisters free range. I'm so sad for her. I want her to feel better. For now, I'm letting her rest and recover. I'm wondering at what point I should tube fluids, but don't want to stress her out and send her over the edge. Also don't want to handle her much if her belly is tender after being poked. I also don't want her to go into shock if I can help prevent that. I'm hoping it's just that she's still sedated from the diazepam.

Advice would be appreciated.

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I don't think you should freak out just yet. It's only been a few hours right?
I would wait for Kathy to respond but maybe plan on tubing come morning. I don't know though. I think a few more hours wouldn't hurt...of waiting.
Not totally freaking, but worried. She has not perked up and is still dripping. That just seems like a long time without fluid. She didn’t want me bothering her, so relocated to the “upstairs” of the coop on the floor with her face in a corner.
 
Thanks. She won't drink anything yet, but I'll try.
I don't think you should freak out just yet. It's only been a few hours right?
I would wait for Kathy to respond but maybe plan on tubing come morning. I don't know though. I think a few more hours wouldn't hurt...of waiting.
 
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Not totally freaking, but worried. She has not perked up and is still dripping. That just seems like a long time without fluid. She didn’t want me bothering her, so relocated to the “upstairs” of the coop on the floor with her face in a corner.
I'm sure it's scary. I honestly don't know if it would be good to wait or start tubing now.
 
I’m glad Ruby had a good day yesterday. Today was NOT good. She didn’t really drink or eat, and isolated most of the day. I’m not going to tube her, as I think we’ve done everything we can for her. She went to bed an hour early in a nest box with her face in a corner. Beside Millie, who is broody and her bestie.
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We had a nice, long lap cuddle, which has never happened before. I think sweet Ruby has given up. My lovely. She has fought valiantly.
 
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I just read through this post, I just want you to know that you have done everything you possibly could for her. Not a lot of people would go so far as to tube, and do vet checks. She is so lucky to have you as her mom, had she been with any other chicken owner she may have not made it nearly this far. She is so lucky, and you have made such a difference in her life. She knows she is loved.
I'm so sorry your going through this, its so hard loosing a hen you have fought so hard for. You made that difference. :hugs:hugs
 

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