Fluffy Butt Acres: Stories of our flock

[ChicoryBlue]

This is one of those topics I got obsessed about a while back.
Infrared describes a range of wavelengths, and chickens can see some but not all of infrared.
Now try and find the wavelength your cameras use - not so easy. Basically they can see the lights in some cameras not all.
I did have references for the wavelengths chickens can see but I didn’t save them and am on the plane waiting to take off so won’t try and look now.

Made slight headway on the topic, I have Arlo cameras and know @RoyalChick and @BY Bob have Arlo also. I'm not sure if you all already figured this out or not as I'm not keeping up very thoroughly on the thread. So far I'm understanding that chickens see some of both ends - infrared and ultraviolet...
https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Q-Plus/What-is-the-IR-wavelength-of-the-illuminator-for-Arlo-Q-Plus/td-p/1795133#:~:text=All Arlo cameras use 850nm,brighter and provide color recordings.&text=All Arlo cameras use 850nm IR LEDs.,-Some have reported
"All Arlo cameras use 850nm IR LEDs. Some have reported that the longer wavelength 950nm lights have worked adequately but 850nm seems to be much more common so, why not?"
@bgmathteach @Ponypoor

 

[Ponypoor]

I’m not a cat person. But I can’t let any animal starve to death. So I do share food with them (there’s six strays around here lately)

The chooks don’t seem too worried about that one, my cat is afraid of the chickens.

 

[Ponypoor]

 Made slight headway on the topic, I have Arlo cameras and know @RoyalChick and @BY Bob have Arlo also. I'm not sure if you all already figured this out or not as I'm not keeping up very thoroughly on the thread. So far I'm understanding that chickens see some of both ends - infrared and ultraviolet...
https://community.arlo.com/t5/Arlo-Q-Plus/What-is-the-IR-wavelength-of-the-illuminator-for-Arlo-Q-Plus/td-p/1795133#:~:text=All Arlo cameras use 850nm,brighter and provide color recordings.&text=All Arlo cameras use 850nm IR LEDs.,-Some have reported
"All Arlo cameras use 850nm IR LEDs. Some have reported that the longer wavelength 950nm lights have worked adequately but 850nm seems to be much more common so, why not?"
@bgmathteach @Ponypoor

My cameras (Reolink) like all cameras out there are PTP (peer to peer), this means that the cameras are only activated when the application you use to view and control the camera is started and you make a camera selection. They don’t constantly stream unless you have the application running - I have many times forgotten I have my cameras running - this is a bad thing of you have limited data as I do.

If your cams and app support multiple displays you can view as many as the app supports. In my case I can view all 9 of my cameras at once.

One thing I do with my cams is to lower the bite rate and frame rate to the lowest I can so that the amount of data being sent doesn’t overwhelm my slower internet and set amount of data. Tonight I have pretty good speed for my internet (6.43mbps download, and 3.5bps upload), but this is still considered slow for this day and age.

For IR (infra red lighting for dark), there are basically 2 wavelengths in use: 850nm which is those red lights you see on cameras, and 940 which have no visible lights or n the camera, these would use for covert viewing in darkness.

This explains IR:
https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011452574-Introduction-to-IR-Illumination/

Also with cameras there are various ways to power them and send the data for viewing.

PoE (power over Ethernet) in my opinion is by far the best way to power and view. The camera use one cable an Ethernet cable to both power and view the camera. There is never a lost signal, and only one cable to deal with which can run up to 330’.

WiFi cameras need a power cable to be run to the camera to power it. Data is sent to you router via wifi thus the camera cannot be too far from the router or go through to many walls.

Internet connection is another camera, this requires the camera to have a SIM card and a cellular data plan for the camera to function. These would be an option is you are too far from your router. This my least favourite type of camera.

If you are a far distance from your main router you would be better off using a wireless bridge such as I use to connect my barn office and all my cameras to the house where my router is.

This is also what I did for my nieces chicken coop, I put the wireless bridge receiver inside the coop with the camera (we ran a heavy gauge 100’ extension cable from the pool power supply outlet to the chicken coop for power), this all worked lovely but my sister was annoyed with having an Ethernet cable running to the wireless bridge transmitter at the house so we had to take the camera down.

Anyways I do not know if my chooks can see with the 85nm lighting or not, but for me it’s perfect for spying on them

Here is an article on chicken vision and what light they can see. They apparently cannot see the 850nm wavelength.

" The wavelength of visible light ranges from 400 nanometres (nm) to around 700 nm. Infrared light’s wavelength is longer than the light we can see, measuring above 700 nm. While humans can see in the range of 400–750 nm, chickens can see in the range of 315–750 nm. Additionally, chickens can see higher peaks at the spectrums of around 480 and 630 nm, said Rubinoff. "
https://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/the-importance-of-lighting-in-poultry-production#:~:text=Infrared light's wavelength is longer,and 630 nm, said Rubinoff.

 

[Ponypoor]

Camera IR for viewing, I have all the camera set to the lowest bite rate and frames and they still look great

The chickies are all asleep.

Reenie is eating

Outside it's raining

 

[notabitail]

Camera IR for viewing, I have all the camera set to the lowest bite rate and frames and they still look great

The chickies are all asleep.
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Reenie is eating
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Outside it's raining
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Your chickens looks very happy, and so does the horse.

 

[featherhead007]

My cameras (Reolink) like all cameras out there are PTP (peer to peer), this means that the cameras are only activated when the application you use to view and control the camera is started and you make a camera selection. They don’t constantly stream unless you have the application running - I have many times forgotten I have my cameras running - this is a bad thing of you have limited data as I do.

If your cams and app support multiple displays you can view as many as the app supports. In my case I can view all 9 of my cameras at once.

One thing I do with my cams is to lower the bite rate and frame rate to the lowest I can so that the amount of data being sent doesn’t overwhelm my slower internet and set amount of data. Tonight I have pretty good speed for my internet (6.43mbps download, and 3.5bps upload), but this is still considered slow for this day and age.

For IR (infra red lighting for dark), there are basically 2 wavelengths in use: 850nm which is those red lights you see on cameras, and 940 which have no visible lights or n the camera, these would use for covert viewing in darkness.

This explains IR:
https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011452574-Introduction-to-IR-Illumination/

Also with cameras there are various ways to power them and send the data for viewing.

PoE (power over Ethernet) in my opinion is by far the best way to power and view. The camera use one cable an Ethernet cable to both power and view the camera. There is never a lost signal, and only one cable to deal with which can run up to 330’.

WiFi cameras need a power cable to be run to the camera to power it. Data is sent to you router via wifi thus the camera cannot be too far from the router or go through to many walls.

Internet connection is another camera, this requires the camera to have a SIM card and a cellular data plan for the camera to function. These would be an option is you are too far from your router. This my least favourite type of camera.

If you are a far distance from your main router you would be better off using a wireless bridge such as I use to connect my barn office and all my cameras to the house where my router is.

This is also what I did for my nieces chicken coop, I put the wireless bridge receiver inside the coop with the camera (we ran a heavy gauge 100’ extension cable from the pool power supply outlet to the chicken coop for power), this all worked lovely but my sister was annoyed with having an Ethernet cable running to the wireless bridge transmitter at the house so we had to take the camera down.

Anyways I do not know if my chooks can see with the 85nm lighting or not, but for me it’s perfect for spying on them

Here is an article on chicken vision and what light they can see. They apparently cannot see the 850nm wavelength.

" The wavelength of visible light ranges from 400 nanometres (nm) to around 700 nm. Infrared light’s wavelength is longer than the light we can see, measuring above 700 nm. While humans can see in the range of 400–750 nm, chickens can see in the range of 315–750 nm. Additionally, chickens can see higher peaks at the spectrums of around 480 and 630 nm, said Rubinoff. "
https://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/the-importance-of-lighting-in-poultry-production#:~:text=Infrared light's wavelength is longer,and 630 nm, said Rubinoff.

That’s some great information.

 

[knoturavggrl]

I have been been quite busy this week, this is my first year of having a school age kiddo and there is quite a flurry of activities and projects and events to coordinate. My peaceful sitting with chickens and taking pictures time has been reduced significantly. But I did come across a crazy picture I had to share.
A chimera Rooster named Boomer from Two Moon Acres, he is a barred rock and a BCM literally. Genetics are amazing!

 

[LhickenChicken]

My roo - he cocorico too.

I heard him when I was down in the garden. So I said, "Cocorico!" back to him.

My Nekky, he cocorico. My Sam, he cocorico. Repeat. All. Day. Long.

 

[LhickenChicken]

I’m not a cat person. But I can’t let any animal starve to death. So I do share food with them (there’s six strays around here lately)

My cats are like dogs. You need a cat-dog. One that will follow you around but still is cute and tiny.

 

[LhickenChicken]

The chooks don’t seem too worried about that one, my cat is afraid of the chickens.

Mine too!