I try not to do that too much, FB gets pretty darn toxic, opposed to most of the people here. I mean this thread and chicken friends are awesome, but I’ve seen some pretty nasty stuff here on BYC too (mostly the preadator and meat bird forums). So I don’t want to burden anyone, or seem overly negative, add in all of the overwhelm and… not good.

There’s also the fear of negative backlash from not portraying the expected positivity. Right before my big social media purge, we had some issues with flooding, and supply chain issues, which led to of course more panic buying and general nonsense here. So, being alone without transport, and off grid (yes, eventually even I run out of my carefully stockpiled fuel…) so they put a 30L (7 gallons) limit on gasoline. No biggie, if you can get to the gas station. Some of my FB “friends” were being obnoxious about people complaining about it. I (stupidly) thought elaborating on how it affected me might add some different perspective about things like accessibility and need. I got absolutely lambasted by this person, told I didn’t understand rationing, mocked, and called a stupid snowflake… all while dealing with DH in the hospital, being physically trapped by flooding, losing my pet, and a nasty little cold snap. Really kicked me when I was pretty down but still trying hard to stay upbeat, publicly at that, and then several of her friends (complete strangers to me, started in on me too). Just for trying to give a different perspective on the fuel rationing situation.

So, I did a massive FB purge, 300+ people unfriended, and most of them won’t even notice I am gone. Over 3/4 of my “friends” gone. I kept family, really close friends with shared interests, anyone who lives on the same (literal) island as me. The result? I’m not bombarded by a bunch of peoples opinions on everything, especially current “events”. I have more peace of mind, honest positivity, and feel better knowing if I make a post that isn’t all about fake positivity and “flexing” my lifestyle, the people who will see it are ones that matter to me.

Some Additional info about my living situation for any new friends here… I’m completely off grid, on an island with one, questionable at the best of times, road access to our side of the island. I run a Gas powered generator to charge my batteries for RV lights, the water pump, and electric heat when the generator is running. (RV is a mid 90’s model! So not a spring chicken or a three season either, because it’s “temporary” 🤣😂🤣 while we build our house). Being off grid, I stock up a little at every shop to keep a decent supply of basic stuff. So we don’t need to panic but when life sends us hiccups, not even TP! I usually have on hand about 120L (31 gallons) of gas, one (now two with my heater) jerry can of diesel, and we have 5 20lb BBQ, and 3 taller 30lb propane tanks (we also have a propane heater, fridge, stove/oven. When it became clear a resupply was going to be problematic, I immediately started rationing my supplies (we won’t even go into the chicken feed situation! I have a lot of chickens) and only treating myself to the bare minimum 1-2hrs of generator power to keep everything functioning. I went basically one month with no supplies or shopping, and oh boy, was it nice when DH finally got home with feed and gas!

Long story short FB is evil… BYC is way better.
Kris, I have missed you!
I wouldn't be here on this and other parts of BYC (including some who post here who have their own wonderful threads) if it wasn't a generally rational, caring and respectful bunch. I would encourage anyone to flag anything on BYC that is otherwise. Seems to me that's the only way to curb bad behaviour. Let's show and enforce some boundaries...

I love it here, with people who are truly interested in how others approach life and life with chickens. This thread's sanity is very much due to Bob and I am grateful for that. Thank you, Bob! ❤️
 
You're not giving up are you bro :D
I’m wondering if Flexi is as much of a snuggle bunny as my Rocks-Anne is?🤔
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OK I got some video today. This is the rat-proof chicken feeder, where the selling point is that the distance of the treadle from the food bin is beyond a rat or squirrel's reach but fine for chickens. Apparently rats have figured out ways to overcome treadle-feeders with close treadles. Also a plus is the door opens inward rather than outward, so is safer. Caveat: bantam chickens are too light for it, it is made for full-size chickens, but can be used with bantams when there are full-sized chickens in the flock. Like Hazel, they learn to get in on the action when the big girls have got it open.

Of course half or more of training chickens is training the trainer. Hazel likes to nip in on the left side when others have got the treadle down, and I did not plan for that at first. And now, the 6x6 chunk I had used on the left side previously to block was in use elsewhere so not available for today's video. In the first video I should have positioned myself on the left to be the block, in the two later videos I did. I had both sides blocked in the beginning of training after most everybody wanted to get to the food around the "barrier" of the treadle. So in this video I eventually gently herd Hazel to approach the feeder from the front. She is not afraid of it now, I would not have done that earlier.

Basically the idea is you reveal the food to them by stepping on it and pushing the treadle down, then lift up and close it, and do that a number of times, when they're hungry. You step on it partway, and when they step on the treadle too, let up. My foot wasn't very effective though. I found that because I have sort of inadvertently trained them to follow my hand and finger, as I do with cats - I tap on anything I want them to see and know about - I would tap on the treadle, and push it down a little. I also tap on the door and push it in a little, while holding the treadle down a bit with my other hand, about halfway in the beginning of training, as I found they were hesitant to lift their foot that high and get on top of it. But they will step on it and over it to get to the food. If they stepped over it I let the door down and treadle up. Same if they step on it and then kept going. If they stepped on the treadle I let up and let their weight take over and the door would open fully. Everybody except Hazel learned pretty fast.

Here I'm trying to get Hazel to try it and somebody else just steps right up to eat.

Here Hazel happened to be in the right position, in front of it, and I tried again. She didn't need to eat anymore for awhile after this.

It took some tweaking of three elements to get the weight to resistance ratio and travel distances right. The link length is a fourth but that's pretty well set by the maker. So -the spring tension/length, and the distance the treadle moves / door opens with a proper, firm, bottoming out of the treadle, and the last, which I eventually took out of the equation for the time being, a soft-close mechanism I had as an add-on. The very, very cold weather I thought was making it's operation stiff. I backed it off completely. Thus the door bangs shut for now, but everybody has gotten used to the sound and it doesn't scare them. It is true when I'm out by the run I can hear when somebody has just gotten off the feeder, so I know they are using it.

I thought the soft-close mechanism played a part in making the door too easy to push in when I had the weight-to-resistance ratio about right - I heard a scraping around in there and saw a mole leave, :eek: and saw either the same guy or another push it open and about to go in before I scared it away. The last mile of the close, the last half-inch - was too loose, but in pushing the door open further there was resistance, so making the spring stiff enough to hold it tight was making it hard to get the Buckeye weight-to-treadle/ door-fully-open right. The maker is very good at answering questions and providing help and he confirmed the mechanism needs a stiffer spring than one without it. I decided I didn't want to deal with it further for now because training the hens to use it was priority so I backed it off so it would have no effect. When the resistance is too great for the chicken's weight the treadle won't reach the bottom and be fully open, the treadle will float and wiggle some, which is another new and weird-feeling, and potentially unsafe thing for the chickens to deal with.

OK very long and I hope generally informative, though definitely extra-nerdy there at the end... 🤓
Excellent! Thank you so much. After the rest experience last year I am extremely careful about not leaving food out. I seriously considered getting treadle feeders.

It looks like you have done a great job teaching your ladies. They are very comfortable around you. You should be very proud of that.
 
Kris, I have missed you!
I wouldn't be here on this and other parts of BYC (including some who post here who have their own wonderful threads) if it wasn't a generally rational, caring and respectful bunch. I would encourage anyone to flag anything on BYC that is otherwise. Seems to me that's the only way to curb bad behaviour. Let's show and enforce some boundaries...

I love it here, with people who are truly interested in how others approach life and life with chickens. This thread's sanity is very much due to Bob and I am grateful for that. Thank you, Bob! ❤️
I'm blushing again. 😊 You are too kind.
 
Here, There, and Everywhere

Everyone knows that since the last hawk attack no chickens are allowed to roam the yard with human rooster escort. That escort being me of course.

We also know that by nature chickens hang together. Therefore this is not normally an issue.

Well I can only assume that since they have been "cooped up" together, today they wanted nothing to do with each other. They were spread over the entire yard! I could not keep track of everyone.

Phyllis was by the shed
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Aurora was on the other side of the yard by the gate.
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Lilly was by the pool and Sydney was under the trumpet vine.

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Hattie was by the coop side door.
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And Betty was in the courtyard, no photo. Here is what that looks like if you look at the yard from space.

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There was no way I could be next to all of them so I was in constant motion, eyes to the skies. It was just a little nerve wracking.

Fortunately, no sign of any hawk. In fact, no hawk sightings at all after 4 consecutive days of free ranging. 🤞🤞

@Ribh @MaryJanet @micstrachan @ChicoryBlue @LozzyR @Aussie-Chookmum
 
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Here, There, and Everywhere

Everyone knows that since the last hawk attack no chickens are allowed to roam the yard with human rooster escort. That escort being me of course.

We also know that by nature chickens hang together. Therefore this is not normally an issue.

Well I can only assume that since they have been "cooped up" together, today they wanted nothing to do with each other. They were spread over the entire yard! I could not keep track of everyone.

Phyllis was by the shed
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Aurora was on the other side of the yard by the gate.
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Lilly was by the pool and Sydney was under the trumpet vine.

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Hattie was by the coop side door.
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And Betty was in the courtyard, no photo. Here is what that looks like if you look at the yard from space.

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There was no way I could be next to all of them so I was in constant motion, eyes to the skies. It was just a little nerve wracking.

Fortunately, no sign of any hawk. In fact, no hawk sitings at all after 4 consecutive days of free ranging. 🤞🤞

@Ribh @MaryJanet @micstrachan @ChicoryBlue @LozzyR @Aussie-Chookmum
@Shadrach
 
Everyone makes it sound so painful, slog for example, and yet they keep in reading. It can't be that bad, can it?
No, just daunting. Think of it this way:
Mount Everest is a VERY daunting/intimidating mountain to climb....but it is also alluring, and, for those that are successful, exhilarating.:love:love
 
Monday Mugs & SHRA taxes

I have switched to a treadle feeder, because of moles, at least I think they are moles. Tiny, tiny eyes, very short tails, and go about finding food by smell. Can't keep them out with this setup, if there is a way, at least for winter I think I'm stuck. I found them coming in under the skirt of the moveable coop run in broad daylight. Taking food away for the night obviously wasn't working. I fear weasels following the moles. I think the chickens are safe in the coop at night, though it is double-walled plastic. I am considering setting up the electric moveable netting around everything, but getting it into the ice and frozen ground (shale driveway) seems really, really hard, and would have to be moved or carefully shoveled every time it snowed. The solar charger for it is useless this time of year, means charging it every day. Maybe a plug-in conversion kit is possible.

Butters today. She was the first to "get" how to use the feeder. She is the most calm and least wary. Also the biggest hen, I think she eats more. She was hitting the crushed eggshells a lot the last couple weeks and just started laying again.
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Peanut's neck, mostly. Her face is still filling in from her molt. Peanut is Alpha hen, and she also learned the feeder very quickly. She and Butters eat side-by-side first thing in the morning. Hazel nips in from the side corner when these two are eating.
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Popcorn, bottom hen, learned right after Butters. She would step on it and start eating, then get booted off by Peanut and Hazel, and the treadle would close them out. She was and is highly motivated to get what she needs; she has to wait on the others to get at the feeder. Luckily Butters and Peanut just get a quick bite in the morning and then soon take a break, so she pecks and explores around a little biding her time and gets in pretty quickly.
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Hazel, an earlier picture from this winter. Hazel hitchhikes from the side on everyone else. She is barely learning and I am training her specially now to approach from straight-on and stand on the treadle, which she will do in training so far. Haven't seen her eat on her own. She has found she just has to watch for when somebody else steps on the treadle to eat, and then rush over and get in on that action. She is the most wary and is only now getting somewhat used to the feeder, though I had it sitting in the run for a few days before I started training them on it. Strangely, Hazel is not 2nd hen when it comes to the chopped greens meal, Butters seems to be more assertive and Hazel backs off. Hazel is more like a rooster? She will get in and eat a bit, but then step away and watch out and peck around the sides for flung bits. She does a lot of calling. She'll readily eat out of my hand if I grab some for her, but she won't butt in much on anyone; she will sometimes peck Popcorn away but not take her place eating, she just does it "because". So Popcorn goes back and forth between the two chop bowls.
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I love your Buckeyes!/-
Here, There, and Everywhere

Everyone knows that since the last hawk attack no chickens are allowed to roam the yard with human rooster escort. That escort being me of course.

We also know that by nature chickens hang together. Therefore this is not normally an issue.

Well I can only assume that since they have been "cooped up" together, today they wanted nothing to do with each other. They were spread over the entire yard! I could not keep track of everyone.

Phyllis was by the shed
View attachment 2988077

Aurora was on the other side of the yard by the gate.
View attachment 2988078

Lilly was by the pool and Sydney was under the trumpet vine.

View attachment 2988080

Hattie was by the coop side door.
View attachment 2988081

And Betty was in the courtyard, no photo. Here is what that looks like if you look at the yard from space.

View attachment 2988073

There was no way I could be next to all of them so I was in constant motion, eyes to the skies. It was just a little nerve wracking.

Fortunately, no sign of any hawk. In fact, no hawk sightings at all after 4 consecutive days of free ranging. 🤞🤞

@Ribh @MaryJanet @micstrachan @ChicoryBlue @LozzyR @Aussie-Chookmum
They were keeping you busy, Bob! Well done!
 

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