Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[1TurkenLover]

1Turken Lover do you feed FF? I think it does wonders and it might just help your little ones get over such a poor start.

I would I FF { fermented feed .} ?

1. Even if not overtly outwardly sick, these chickens in the best case sererio were seriously underfed and based on the bottom pic kept in dirty conditions. Then brought to an auction type environment (in itself can stress even healthy birds) but not just the stress of the auction environment but also exposed to whatever conditions were being carried by the other birds there or they outright had. Your birds immune system were weakened already and might not be able to cope w/ both the stress and the exposure to whatever at the auction, and not to mention whatever they were exposed to where they came from, if they weren't fed properly I can't imagine there was any good husbandry of these birds or any other birds they had.

2. As to crush (squeeze) type injuries I would think any injury enough to mortally harm the bird would be evident at the most w/in a few days..

3. Staggered walking can be anything from injury, to weakness from parasites, to infection, to mareks and anything in between Trying to diagnose a bird by symptoms gets tricky since so many sx are the same for a bunch of different things. I am not a good source on treating sick or unhealthy birds since in my flock survival of the fittest applies, all sick or weak birds in my flock get the same "treatment" culling.

4. As to age it is hard to tell from the pics, they have all their feathers so over 5 weeks for sure, they still have a lot of "chick" patterning on their feathers so I would say under 10 weeks, but the under fed condition could affect that.


5. Oh and totally agree that fermented feed would do nothing but help.

1. Yes I forget about the stress birds are under masking things I more then Totally agree with " I can't imagine there was any good husbandry of these birds or any other birds they had."

2 .I noticed her symptom's within hrs... as soon as I could compare to the others

3. Not a Judgment .I'm unwilling to Cull anything, it can/will Die without my assistance X cept for end of life for family cat or dog. and yes if I'm starving I'll CULL birds first

4. age reference, remember the NN twins I had B4 with Banty mom they were healthy from get go ( got @ a few days old ) at this size they were ready to go to new homes, Ooo that reminds me Both are large for an Banty size ( is it a hit or miss that a pairing will make different size chicks ?)

5. what is FF I know it's fermented feed but what makes it special ?

 

[Miss Lydia]

I would I FF { fermented feed .} ?


1. Yes I forget about the stress birds are under masking things I more then Totally agree with " I can't imagine there was any good husbandry of these birds or any other birds they had."

2 .I noticed her symptom's within hrs... as soon as I could compare to the others

3. Not a Judgment .I'm unwilling to Cull anything, it can/will Die without my assistance X cept for end of life for family cat or dog. and yes if I'm starving I'll CULL birds first

4. age reference, remember the NN twins I had B4 with Banty mom they were healthy from get go ( got @ a few days old ) at this size they were ready to go to new homes, Ooo that reminds me Both are large for an Banty size ( is it a hit or miss that a pairing will make different size chicks ?)

5. what is FF I know it's fermented feed but what makes it special ?

I am worlds worse at trying to explain so will give you this to read. https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/no-strain-hot-water-easy-fermented-feed-method-w-video

 

[Kassaundra]

Yes fermented feed. Grain seeds are difficult for monogastric animals to digest, there are anti-nutrients built in to protect the ungerminated seed. Fermenting sort of pre-digests the seed making the nutrients more bio available, so they get more benefit from the same food. It also adds good bacteria to the digestive tract.

 

[NewToFarming]

Another bad pic of a nice pullet She's .25% Australorp.

I really like this girl! She is gorgeous!
How could you not just fall in love with the Showgirls? LOL They are quite the characters too! Here are a couple of mine. This is Dandelion.



Here is Tom and his other half Bumbles. These are the 2 roos that had raised a chick from a day old. Now they take over after the Mom's kick them to the curb.

 

[flower]

Time for anew look ! Also looking forward to 2014 for breeding. New feather new traits.


New chicks with silkie breeding and blue/green egg gene ? I hope ?

 

[flower]

But the pictures of the white showgirls remind me that I want some of those as well.

 

[yinepu]

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Yes I did.. my husband had to go into work late that morning .. I was out scraping ice off of his car's windshield when the call came in.. so he gave me a quick ride to the post office to get them. My old truck doesn't have any heat.. so lucky for the chicks he had to go in late! ... all of the chicks arrived alive and well.. and all are still kicking. I'm going to try to get pics of my older babies plus the newest ones today. My new phone FINALLY arrived (after being lost in the post office in a neighboring town).. so I finally have one that will take pics again. (the old phone had way too many issues.. lol)

 

[Miss Lydia]

Yes I did.. my husband had to go into work late that morning .. I was out scraping ice off of his car's windshield when the call came in.. so he gave me a quick ride to the post office to get them. My old truck doesn't have any heat.. so lucky for the chicks he had to go in late! ... all of the chicks arrived alive and well.. and all are still kicking. I'm going to try to get pics of my older babies plus the newest ones today. My new phone FINALLY arrived (after being lost in the post office in a neighboring town).. so I finally have one that will take pics again. (the old phone had way too many issues.. lol)

That's great I kept thinking what if she didn't get to the PO because of the storm. So glad to hear everyone arrived safe and healthy. Look forward to pics.

 

[hellbender]

I really like this girl! She is gorgeous!
How could you not just fall in love with the Showgirls? LOL They are quite the characters too! Here are a couple of mine. This is Dandelion.



Here is Tom and his other half Bumbles. These are the 2 roos that had raised a chick from a day old. Now they take over after the Mom's kick them to the curb.

Kassaundra: The gypsy-face is pretty common around here! I think it adds 'character' to the looks of some of them! lolol

Miss Lydia: Thanks again. I think you will like the NN/Australorp cross, especially if your interests include egg production!

NewToFqrming: The Show Girls have been very steadily growing on me...

Some of them remind me of Phil Spector...lolol

 

[hellbender]

That's great I kept thinking what if she didn't get to the PO because of the storm. So glad to hear everyone arrived safe and healthy. Look forward to pics.

Good luck with the new chicks. Looking forward to pics.