My daughter's best friend has them. They are REALLY hard to get "correct," but when everything comes together properly ... they're gorgeous! What surprised me most was not how difficult they are to get right, but that once they've grown past the crazy juvenile stage, they have an amazingly calm temperament.You know, I have personally never seen an Ayam Cemani live in my life, but I know more than 12 breeders in Canada alone who breed them