The aseel thread!!!

[keblow]

Good morning, everyone!
I recently moved to the Eastern panhandle of West Virginia, from New Hampshire, and had to leave all my birds behind. Regrettably starting fresh, I've ordered the wheatens from Cackle. Anyone have an idea what I'll be starting with? And does anyone know of any breeders within a couple states of me? I'm trying for a 'prepper bird' if that makes any sense at all, and want a bit less game, maybe try to hit 125 eggs a year (hatchery stock should help with that), good mothers, dress out around 3.5-4 lbs. I don't want to end up with 'that's not an aseel!' though lol. Thoughts?
Thanks

 

[fluffycrow]

@MysteryChicken @Bigtom Turkey @cubalaya @Florida Bullfrog What are your thoughts? Personally, I'm sorry, but if you take away the gameyness, take away their special reproductive cycle, why would you go with aseel? There are other breeds that would be a better fit for you. Or doing an aseel cross. I just don't see why you would want to go that route of breeding the aseel out of an aseel, you're making it harder for yourself

 

[MysteryChicken]

@MysteryChicken @Bigtom Turkey @cubalaya @Florida Bullfrog What are your thoughts? Personally, I'm sorry, but if you take away the gameyness, take away their special reproductive cycle, why would you go with aseel? There are other breeds that would be a better fit for you. Or doing an aseel cross. I just don't see why you would want to go that route of breeding the aseel out of an aseel, you're making it harder for yourself

They said less Gamey. I think they're wanting a more stable bird like the Malay.

 

[fluffycrow]

They said less Gamey. I think they're wanting a more stable bird like the Malay.



I agree. A Malay might be a better starting point

 

[MysteryChicken]

Saipans would be closest to the Malays. Malays are very hard to find this year.

 

[keblow]

I'll try to reply to everyone at once here. I had Aseels before and they were mint. By game, I mean fight to the death level. My old ones free ranged and once in a while I had to pick a loser to eat, but they weren't doing nothing but fighting. I didn't get lots of eggs, but there were chicks everywhere, which was good, and they kept those babies alive. They're smart, human friendly, and dress out to a nice little nugget. I was under the impression there were larger Aseels, and most of the info I've come across on Malays says they won't be fully mature until 2-3 years, which is why Aseels sounded better when I first started. They were great birds from a Maine breeder who I can't find.
Thanks guys, and btw I'm female lol. Just haven't got a pic yet.

 

[fluffycrow]

Larger aseel types do exist, the shamo is one of them. Both aseel and Malay take longer to mature, that's just part of their breed. I do think you'd be better off with Malay, as @MysteryChicken said. I don't think anyone has said anything about gender though, sorry If we accidentally called you he! Also welcome to BYC!

 

[cubalaya]

Saipans would be closest to the Malays. Malays are very hard to find this year.

Are there any true saipans left? An asil thats not game is not an asil

 

[Florida Bullfrog]

I don’t see a reason to deaden down the game drive if the goal is making a survival chicken. The game drive only effects how tolerant mature roosters are of each other. I believe the game drive (in orientals) is linked to their anti-predator aggression.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Are there any true saipans left? An asil thats not game is not an asil

Their conservation status is under study. The only Saipans I've found are at Cackle Hatchery.
https://www.cacklehatchery.com/product/saipanjunglefowl/