So yesterday I made the hard boiled eggs as the other post had said to and I had 8 PERFECT eggs. I even put an egg in they came right out of the nest box--that egg too came out perfect. The only thing the recipe didn't state was wether or not to shut the stove off after adding the eggs ............ so after the water came to a rolling boil I added the pinch of salt ,then lowered the eggs in using a laddle, set the timer for 14 minutes, I returned the water to a gentle boil, then covered the pot and then shut the stove off... YEAH finally hard boiled eggs that come out perfect. Next I will try the baking them method.