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Fluffy Butt Acres: Stories of our flock
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If you do that, then leave $2.50 on the counter
Oh yes, I am totally sympathetic to Diane and feel sad for her. Sorry- I was focusing on describing our interactions in case anyone spotted something I could change in what I'm doing. The similarity to roo behaviour is striking, I'll look again at the "what do I do about this roo?" articles again.
I'm so sorry to hear that you aren't making progress with Diane. I know you don't need her to be a lap chicken, but she sounds like she is really unhappy, and it would be nice for both you and the other chickens if she was less riled up all the time. (and her, too!.) I don't have any other suggestions regarding getting her to settle down and not attack....maybe @RebeccaBoyd or @BY Bob has some ideas? Maybe you could ask @Shadrach ??
I don't know if this would work for Diane Ida-biter, but someone did a post about CBD oil (regarding feather picking - but maybe it would help here, too?).I think @ValerieJ already linked to it. I know it is legal in Mass, not sure about NY. But, honestly, I got nothing else.
P.S. most humans who are like that are either in constant pain, or low self esteem. I guess it really could be her personality - but it is just so odd.
I see her going around and wailing, even when she's not trying to attack me. Sometimes it seems to be pre-laying calling, but other times she has already laid an egg and it looks to me like she is just miserable. She is bottom of the pecking order, and others will peck her away when she joins eating pellets from my hand. When that happens I usually take one hand with pellets away from them and extend it out to her on the periphery and she'll eat, though with a little side-eye. If others don't let her eat at all I let them finish and then give her a handful alone.
I'm of the mind that it is physiological, not her basic personality. She is so schizo (@Ponypoor - sing "Schizo, schizo hen" to the tune of "Macho Man"). Compliant; attacking. Trusting me and (usually) not squirming or struggling when I pick her up; attacking. Eating out of my hand but with some wariness; attacking. Drinking with the others from the water nipple when I push it in for more water with my finger, but keening and wanting to bite my hand before she sees the water action.
THIS!! OH, THANK YOU!! I will try it! I've wondered about some kind of anti-anxiety meds for her and didn't think of this.This experienced BYCer believes they have a working solution for aggressive chicken behavior & even feather picking. We had to re-home an aggressive 7-1/2 lb hen who kept attacking our 2-1/2 lb Silkie. We tried all ideas to stop the bullying but nothing worked. We didn't know about the calming effects of CBD at the time before re-homing. Maybe it would've worked before re-homing a hen who was good w/ people but not w/ our other chickens.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...lly-found-a-cure-for-feather-picking.1651769/
Have to read the whole thread still....Yes, there are licensed cannabis stores in NY now, and before that, the health food stores were selling CBD oils. I think people can grow a few plants at home now. Hmmm. But I need to understand what CBD hemp is versus the psychoactive THC hemp? They do like greens!
Hopefully she mellows. She is not flying at me, claws up, or ambushing me from the air from behind. So I don't feel alarm, thankfully. Pain, yes, when she lands a good one, which just adds to the general feeling of upset (I could use some CBD oil!). She used to be more of a jerk with the other hens but has learned her place there, more or less. Still a jerk to them at times, but hasn't really been challenging anyone except me.
Yes, true, thank you! She is not a threat to the other hens at this time - and I've gotten better at avoiding her biting, and predicting the attacks.Like humans, animals also have mental health issues. Not much you can do, except the accept who she is and just come to terms with her actions.
If she gets aggressive with the other hens she may need to be separated; but otherwise I would just continue as you are doing.
It's mostly a painful annoyance for me, and sad. I want a contented life for her!
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Unfortunately, I can't call today because they're closed. I'm calling at 8 tomorrow though!
Sounds like she needs someone to let her not be at the bottom of the pecking order and you are her chosen flockmate to dominate.Oh yes, I am totally sympathetic to Diane and feel sad for her. Sorry- I was focusing on describing our interactions in case anyone spotted something I could change in what I'm doing. The similarity to roo behaviour is striking, I'll look again at the "what do I do about this roo?" articles again.
I see her going around and wailing, even when she's not trying to attack me. Sometimes it seems to be pre-laying calling, but other times she has already laid an egg and it looks to me like she is just miserable. She is bottom of the pecking order, and others will peck her away when she joins eating pellets from my hand. When that happens I usually take one hand with pellets away from them and extend it out to her on the periphery and she'll eat, though with a little side-eye. If others don't let her eat at all I let them finish and then give her a handful alone.
I'm of the mind that it is physiological, not her basic personality. She is so schizo (@Ponypoor - sing "Schizo, schizo hen" to the tune of "Macho Man"). Compliant; attacking. Trusting me and (usually) not squirming or struggling when I pick her up; attacking. Eating out of my hand but with some wariness; attacking. Drinking with the others from the water nipple when I push it in for more water with my finger, but keening and wanting to bite my hand before she sees the water action.
THIS!! OH, THANK YOU!! I will try it! I've wondered about some kind of anti-anxiety meds for her and didn't think of this.
Yes, there are licensed cannabis stores in NY now, and before that, the health food stores were selling CBD oils. I think people can grow a few plants at home now. Hmmm. But I need to understand what CBD hemp is versus the psychoactive THC hemp? They do like greens!
Hopefully she mellows. She is not flying at me, claws up, or ambushing me from the air from behind. So I don't feel alarm, thankfully. Pain, yes, when she lands a good one, which just adds to the general feeling of upset (I could use some CBD oil!). She used to be more of a jerk with the other hens but has learned her place there, more or less. Still a jerk to them at times, but hasn't really been challenging anyone except me.
Yes, true, thank you! She is not a threat to the other hens at this time - and I've gotten better at avoiding her biting, and predicting the attacks.
Maybe you need to add some chickens to the flock so she can be in the middle.
My poor young goose...
this was her last laid egg:
It was yummy, though (and filling!!!! Goose eggs are large to begin with, never mind a double yolker!)
this was her last laid egg:
It was yummy, though (and filling!!!! Goose eggs are large to begin with, never mind a double yolker!)
I wouldn't actually do it
for many reasons
Good grief!My poor young goose...
this was her last laid egg:
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It was yummy, though (and filling!!!! Goose eggs are large to begin with, never mind a double yolker!)
That is what I did!
If you read thru all the comments, the difference between CBD and THC is explained. I think I also brought it up here once? Or maybe it was another thread.THIS!! OH, THANK YOU!! I will try it! I've wondered about some kind of anti-anxiety meds for her and didn't think of this.
Yes, there are licensed cannabis stores in NY now, and before that, the health food stores were selling CBD oils. I think people can grow a few plants at home now. Hmmm. But I need to understand what CBD hemp is versus the psychoactive THC hemp? They do like greens!
Basically, and this is VERY simplified, THC is what causes the high and it has to be activated (heated to a certain temperature) to do that.
Activated CBD has many effects ranging from calming to physical health benefits. It does not, however, cause any sort of high at all. That's why we see CBD pet treats, not THC pet treats (some animals don't even have the cannabinoid receptors required to get high anyways, like chickens. Some animals have them, like dogs, where only small amounts of THC can cause toxicity. Humans have cannabinoid receptors and we can process THC in just the right way to get high but not get sick from it unless we overdose which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, vertigo, elevated heart rate and other uncomfortable symptoms but not death).
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