This reminds me of the “gravy” vs “sauce” debate.
Growing up in my world (Bethlehem, PA), in a Catholic-ITALIAN family, GRAVY was the brown to off-white (various shades) dressing that we made from pan drippings, butter, corn-starch or flour.
SAUCE was the dressing we put on pasta mostly, and was made from tomatoes and various spices, and may or may not include ground meat.
You will hear people hotly argue that the tomato preparation is gravy, and it is not!
:old :rant
Yes! This is exactly the same for me! Same family as well 😉
 
Mrs BY Bob grew up in Hazleton, PA (55 miles by car from Bethlehem). In an Italian Catholic family. "Gravy" was tomato based red stuff that was put on pasta. "Gravy" was also the stuff made from pan drippings. It was used interchangeably. Where as "sauce" only referred to tomato based red stuff put on pasta.

She's not here for me to confirm right now, but using "gravy" to refer to the red stuff put on pasta feels to me to be generational. It may be that based upon when your family came over from the old country and how insular with the Italian immigrant community they had been, that could be reflected in how long "gravy" has persisted in describing the red pasta stuff.
I’ve been wondering about Mrs BY Bob’s maiden name... I hear there are lots of people with my maiden name in Pennsylvania... 🤔
PM me if you’d rather not say on here... if you want...
 
I’ve been wondering about Mrs BY Bob’s maiden name... I hear there are lots of people with my maiden name in Pennsylvania... 🤔
PM me if you’d rather not say on here... if you want...
I can't PM you. You have it turned off somehow.
 
Well that sounds inconsiderate and kind of arbitrary. Any reason given?


I think you should take a trip to Canada to give Kris a hand Shad. Maybe take ByBob along to help you "people wrangle". :smack



:hugs:hugs:hugs

I've forgotten if you've mentioned it before, but is the land around your house going to be fenced off to be used unmolested?

it’s more or less a moot point now, because they have already trampled all over it, but to maintain the warranty on our septic system it needs to be fenced off from livestock. I’m going to fence in the area around my house fairly liberally. Just an acre or two.
 

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