A year this month. Look what you started. I have no idea how I came across this thread, buts it's fun! I should bring my old pals over. Ahem..well, old and young. I do go into the olds folks home. Good ol friends in there that have been on BYC as long as me, if not a bit longer. The things that have happened through the years! Some happy, some very sad. BYC folks come to your relief aid in many different ways. I lost a Golden Retriever in the most odd way years ago. I told the story on one of the threads. A gal says, send me a photo of your favorite with him, I'll draw a picture. Wow. Beautiful. I can't find the real photo..Ive had three Golden's throughout my life. This was Toby.View attachment 2510017 Another sad thing...I had a mentally handicapped sister that I talked about on a thread because she was having a tough time doing Dialysis. She had literally drowned when taken to a Lake by caregivers in the home she was staying in. Thank heavens for a gal that happened to be there that day, she gave Lisa CPR, brought her to. Well, a gal on the Old Folks thread..not old.. ;) ..made her a quilt! Lisa's favorite thing..cats. She made the cutest cat quilt. Lisa took that quilt into a couple of homes with her. She got moved a couple of times once she stated dialysis. First photo at my home, second in the last care home she was in. View attachment 2510028View attachment 2510027 Our Lisa was brought home last March because she didn't want to do dialysis any more. Couldn't blame her, the fishulas kept clotting, long story short, Soo many surgeries. Brought her home, Hospice brought a bed into our living room, she passed 5 weeks later. They had told me it would only be a few days..hard the last couple of weeks, but glad we had her longer than expected. Still missing her. :(. I will keep that quilt forever. She loved it. I don't want to end on a sad note. I just wanted to share how incredibly loving people can be on this site! I get regular birthday cards, Christmas cards, or just because from another gal. I got a chicken swing from another. Too cute. Private messages when someone wanted to give help in some way..personal..or chicken related. I've also given a bit of advice. ;). Or condolences to others. Love BYC folks. This is the friendliest .. cleanest blog I've come across ever. A great Community. I heard someone mention Favorell. I'll find a photo of my bantam girl..made a great mom!
People can be so amazing...I'm glad that you found the support you needed...I have also found great support here! I love the friends I've made on BYC! 💗 💗 💗
 
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My local feed store has salmon faverolles coming in in March, I'm thinking a few might find their way to my house...
Be prepared for little drama queens...at least that's what mine is! I wish I would have gotten 2. The next time I get any I will get at least 2! Love my Faverolles...she's so cute and funny! :love
 
A Snowy Day Project

I new that I would be mostly locked in the house today so I planned a chicken project. I have been wanting to memorialize the chickens that have passed on somehow. Yesterday I finally found a frame suitable to the task. Today I selected and printed the photos and devised the words. I think it came out pretty well.

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The sentiment is based upon a Ronny Millsap song. Here are the words.

Our paths will never cross again
Maybe our hearts will never mend
But we’re glad for all the good times
Cause you've brought us so much sunshine

We wouldn't trade one memory
Cause you meant so much to we
Even though we lost you all
We wouldn't have missed it for the world
I love this Bob!!! :love
 
I just ready a study from 2014 where they utilized 7 to 8 mg/kg of lidocaine intravenously with no ill effects on the chicken. The study was designed to try and determine the validity of the "common knowlege" that lidocaine was fatal to chickens. The article calls for follow up studies for further confirmation. There is also anecdotal reports on BYC where people have successfully used it for bumblefoot surgery. Topical lidocaine should not get to anywhere near the blood levels used in the study.

Obviously it is up to you. If you think that he can handle the pain, you may not want to take the risk.
@BY Bob I was googling this question too because I had heard of this. Did you come across a difference between lidocaine and benzocaine? Or topical cream strengths?
In surgeries with a lot of blood potential there is concern about any "caines" getting into the bloodstream, any level - but without digging into it a lot I am finding just anecdotal stories here on BYC and elsewhere, can't find the actual basis for this concern.
 
@BY Bob I was googling this question too because I had heard of this. Did you come across a difference between lidocaine and benzocaine? Or topical cream strengths?
In surgeries with a lot of blood potential there is concern about any "caines" getting into the bloodstream, any level - but without digging into it a lot I am finding just anecdotal stories here on BYC and elsewhere, can't find the actual basis for this concern.
I have come across some anecdotal evidence of people successfully using benzocain for bumblefoot surgery. I've not found a paper on it. I have found where veterinarians have mentioned to other vets using topical lidocaine when treating prolapse.

I feel like this may be an old wive's tail. I have found it stated with great emphasis, like it is absolute, that any "caine" (lidocaine, benzocaine, etc.) will kill your chicken. However, I can't seem to find an origin story.

I would not want to have my topical lidocaine sucked in through a wound that is bleeding heavily because it can effect the heart. However, you can apply it and let it soak in and dry, then do whatever you need to with I believe minimal risk. At least based upon what I have found so far.

Again, no one should take what I am saying as gospel. I have not gone to vet school.
 

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