Go back to Shad's article on roos and Rebecca's post on handling young. Deep breath....let it out slowly.....and let their behavior speak to you. One day at a time.
Am going to read Shad’s article again (been a long time), but the @RebeccaBoyd post(s), can anybody find that / them? I do recall reading it, but can’t find it now, my searches are not turning up anything.

I still like Shehnai for his name, and I’ve been calling him that, teaching him that name all this time, since he was a chick (Hindi word, sort of pronounced shay-NAH-ee, or sheh-NAH-ee. I first heard it in the Rolling Stones songs Streefighting Man and Paint It Black. The Buckeyes honks sound a lot like one).

He has never been keen on being handled, from Day One he was very evasive and fast, totally wasn’t into even standing on my hand, unusually so for a chick or even compared to the other Buckeye chicks (Buckeyes are more wary than Orpingtons, but Picabo, Isabel and Beedles would stand on my hand no problem. Beedles was always wanting to stay on my hand, hard to get her off!). I’ve worked on not reaching too fast near any of them a lot, and getting them to be comfortable being very close to me, inspecting and standing on my legs without fear. Now they have calmed a lot from the early frenzy chick stage and are practically underfoot and all in and behind me when I’m crouching doing something.

But I haven’t really been handling them much, it seemed to need a slower approach, and integration has made it more difficult, with Bigs around. I’ve now been lightly brushing against them with my hand or arm, while reaching somewhere else, or sometimes when they go by me when I’m crouching, to get them used to my touch. They all will eat from my hands readily of course. Two days ago I looked at one’s vent, letting her stand in place on my leg but keeping her there, which works well for Bigs Buckeye Hazel, who gets very nervous & trembles when being held.

I did move the Littles in a sort of emergency handling, when they were freaking out more than I thought they would with the work of the tractor excavator 15 feet away. I think it was the back and forward motion, not the engine, that was the problem I didn’t foresee. Plus they had been herded back down to the covered run from the area I first had them (rhododendron) by the Bigs (who then went back up). They were huddling and also trying to get away somewhere so I picked them up one by one and carried them back up to the rhododendron, where they were much happier. Shehnai was the most upset of them all, also I moved him last, which in hindsight was a mistake. Besides the tractor, he was all upset about being alone and was calling a pitiful bokking sort of egg song to find the group, and that became a wail as I carried him, and went on wailing for a good five seconds after he was put down on the ground with everybody else. I got the familiar yellow feeder (had since they were chicks) and put it up there, opened the top and topped up the sides, and he settled down as they all ate. I sat with them awhile. Then after the excavating was done I did chores around them and spent a long quiet calm time sitting too, the next day also. I could see some trust needed to be regained, which took a couple of days.
 
So, I have varied thoughts on tis. First - you need to see just how big he does get. I have found that frequently the size for large breeds posted is NOT the weight they actually are. For example:
Meyer Hatchery lists Barred plymouth rock Female avg. weight as 7.5 lbs, and male average weight as 9.5 lbs.

Well, let me tell you - that may be true for HERITAGE BPRs, but it is NOT the actual weights of my many, many BRs from Meyer. My heaviest girl was maybe 7 lbs, my heaviest roo was maybe 8.5 lbs. The girls were really closer to 5 lbs, the boys closer to 7 for the hatchery 'staple' BRs.

Now, my heritage BRs (that I got from somewhere else) ARE truly that weight.

So, 1st take away: don't worry about the listed weight - see what he REALLY ends up being

2nd: Roos of the same breed ARE bigger than the hens. Some difference is just fine.

3rd: Observe behavior. It may be that the two small girls never warm up to him.

4th: If he is gentile, and they are willing...I've seen a smaller girl not just 'crouch', but essentially be flat on the ground -but in crouched form - inviting a bigger roo to mate...and she never seemed to have an issue. The roo was gentile, and again, she was willing - and clearly knew he was a big boy & prepared for that!

The trouble comes from him NOT being gentile, and/or her not wanting his attentions. I suspect that the weight difference will not be what you are imagining it to be......but, if it does end up being 3lbs to 9lbs, that is too big of a difference. Again, if he is good and they aren't willing (might not be if he is that heavy), it might all just work out okay anyways - as he will still have a number of bigger girls that will, hopefully, accept him.

Start with weighing your 2 smaller girls. Might also weigh geronimo and (? new name, @RC?) now to get an idea of size/weight difference of your larger girl and 'him'.

I am in the freaking out part with Mrs LC who regularly lets Mr P breed her. I have actually started making her stay out with the main gang and the smaller Roos, I just get too worried every time I see her squashed by Mr P. And she doesn’t complain or run away to beast! But she is too tiny for him no matter how gentle he is going to be there is always the chance she will get injured. So out with the bunch she goes. I let her roost in with aMr P at night though.

These chickens 🐓 are a huge worry!
 
So, I have varied thoughts on tis. First - you need to see just how big he does get. I have found that frequently the size for large breeds posted is NOT the weight they actually are. For example:
Meyer Hatchery lists Barred plymouth rock Female avg. weight as 7.5 lbs, and male average weight as 9.5 lbs.

Well, let me tell you - that may be true for HERITAGE BPRs, but it is NOT the actual weights of my many, many BRs from Meyer. My heaviest girl was maybe 7 lbs, my heaviest roo was maybe 8.5 lbs. The girls were really closer to 5 lbs, the boys closer to 7 for the hatchery 'staple' BRs.

Now, my heritage BRs (that I got from somewhere else) ARE truly that weight.

So, 1st take away: don't worry about the listed weight - see what he REALLY ends up being

2nd: Roos of the same breed ARE bigger than the hens. Some difference is just fine.

3rd: Observe behavior. It may be that the two small girls never warm up to him.

4th: If he is gentile, and they are willing...I've seen a smaller girl not just 'crouch', but essentially be flat on the ground -but in crouched form - inviting a bigger roo to mate...and she never seemed to have an issue. The roo was gentile, and again, she was willing - and clearly knew he was a big boy & prepared for that!

The trouble comes from him NOT being gentile, and/or her not wanting his attentions. I suspect that the weight difference will not be what you are imagining it to be......but, if it does end up being 3lbs to 9lbs, that is too big of a difference. Again, if he is good and they aren't willing (might not be if he is that heavy), it might all just work out okay anyways - as he will still have a number of bigger girls that will, hopefully, accept him.

Start with weighing your 2 smaller girls. Might also weigh geronimo and (? new name, @RC?) now to get an idea of size/weight difference of your larger girl and 'him'.
Helpful. And of course I won’t jump to any conclusions. I will weigh Pooh before she starts molting but will wait on Piglet who is just a tiny white porcupine right now!
Weighing Geronimo and Chippy (still a temporary name) is a great idea. But one with a fatal flaw: How to catch them? I might be able to get Chippy as he is becoming curious about where Tassels finds those blueberries he loves so much and what that big chicken has to do with their supply. He jumped up onto my little table to study me more closely. Catching Geronimo sounds like a truly impossible task. And I can’t get them at night because they are wedged in with Tassels in the dog crate.
To look at them, Chippy is not really bigger than Geronimo. Possibly she is more fluffy but there isn’t much in it. And quiet little Bucky actually looks bigger than both of them.

Bucky (also needs a real name) did end up enjoying strawberries mostly had them to herself.
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I am in the freaking out part with Mrs LC who regularly lets Mr P breed her. I have actually started making her stay out with the main gang and the smaller Roos, I just get too worried every time I see her squashed by Mr P. And she doesn’t complain or run away to beast! But she is too tiny for him no matter how gentle he is going to be there is always the chance she will get injured. So out with the bunch she goes. I let her roost in with aMr P at night though.

These chickens 🐓 are a huge worry!
What is the weight difference between Mr.P and Mrs.LC? Mr.P is quite small isn’t he?
 
Am going to read Shad’s article again (been a long time), but the @RebeccaBoyd post(s), can anybody find that / them? I do recall reading it, but can’t find it now, my searches are not turning up anything.

I still like Shehnai for his name, and I’ve been calling him that, teaching him that name all this time, since he was a chick (Hindi word, sort of pronounced shay-NAH-ee, or sheh-NAH-ee. I first heard it in the Rolling Stones songs Streefighting Man and Paint It Black. The Buckeyes honks sound a lot like one).

He has never been keen on being handled, from Day One he was very evasive and fast, totally wasn’t into even standing on my hand, unusually so for a chick or even compared to the other Buckeye chicks (Buckeyes are more wary than Orpingtons, but Picabo, Isabel and Beedles would stand on my hand no problem. Beedles was always wanting to stay on my hand, hard to get her off!). I’ve worked on not reaching too fast near any of them a lot, and getting them to be comfortable being very close to me, inspecting and standing on my legs without fear. Now they have calmed a lot from the early frenzy chick stage and are practically underfoot and all in and behind me when I’m crouching doing something.

But I haven’t really been handling them much, it seemed to need a slower approach, and integration has made it more difficult, with Bigs around. I’ve now been lightly brushing against them with my hand or arm, while reaching somewhere else, or sometimes when they go by me when I’m crouching, to get them used to my touch. They all will eat from my hands readily of course. Two days ago I looked at one’s vent, letting her stand in place on my leg but keeping her there, which works well for Bigs Buckeye Hazel, who gets very nervous & trembles when being held.

I did move the Littles in a sort of emergency handling, when they were freaking out more than I thought they would with the work of the tractor excavator 15 feet away. I think it was the back and forward motion, not the engine, that was the problem I didn’t foresee. Plus they had been herded back down to the covered run from the area I first had them (rhododendron) by the Bigs (who then went back up). They were huddling and also trying to get away somewhere so I picked them up one by one and carried them back up to the rhododendron, where they were much happier. Shehnai was the most upset of them all, also I moved him last, which in hindsight was a mistake. Besides the tractor, he was all upset about being alone and was calling a pitiful bokking sort of egg song to find the group, and that became a wail as I carried him, and went on wailing for a good five seconds after he was put down on the ground with everybody else. I got the familiar yellow feeder (had since they were chicks) and put it up there, opened the top and topped up the sides, and he settled down as they all ate. I sat with them awhile. Then after the excavating was done I did chores around them and spent a long quiet calm time sitting too, the next day also. I could see some trust needed to be regained, which took a couple of days.
Here is where @notabitail posted the link to the article. And @SimpleJenn also has it in this week’s synopsis.
Post in thread 'Fluffy Butt Acres: Stories of our flock'
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-28825472
 
Helpful. And of course I won’t jump to any conclusions. I will weigh Pooh before she starts molting but will wait on Piglet who is just a tiny white porcupine right now!
Weighing Geronimo and Chippy (still a temporary name) is a great idea. But one with a fatal flaw: How to catch them? I might be able to get Chippy as he is becoming curious about where Tassels finds those blueberries he loves so much and what that big chicken has to do with their supply. He jumped up onto my little table to study me more closely. Catching Geronimo sounds like a truly impossible task. And I can’t get them at night because they are wedged in with Tassels in the dog crate.
To look at them, Chippy is not really bigger than Geronimo. Possibly she is more fluffy but there isn’t much in it. And quiet little Bucky actually looks bigger than both of them.

Bucky (also needs a real name) did end up enjoying strawberries mostly had them to herself.
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Bucky is a cute name. Can always swap out a single letter and she becomes Becky.
 
Roo worry.
As I ponder the fate of little Chippy I looked up the standards for a Speckled Suspect Rooster. Meyer hatchery lists 9lb for a mature roo. OMG!!!
That is huge. Piglet weighs 3lb sopping wet! Actually I need to weigh her once she is done molting.
I know any rooster can injure any hen and it is all about how rough he is, and we hope he will be schooled by Tassels and Calypso who are decent sized hens, but does anyone think a 3X weight differential might be too much even if he is well mannered?
I am worried about poor Piglet and Pooh and not getting them stressed or injured and I think Cookie might end up the same sort of size as Piglet.
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Hector was a big boy (9-10 pounds) Lark and Indigo (and Twirp) tiny (3 pounds sopping wet). Generally speaking, hens of the same breed as the roo are smaller....and faster. A small hen can out run the larger roo, so can avoid getting bred unless he corners her. Twirp got caught by Hector as a hormonal idiot exactly ONCE. He climbed on, she squished into the soft ground (inside the coop, so straw and shavings), squirmed out from under him, turned around and kicked him in the FACE with both feet. He had gotten fully back up on his fight, so she had quite the leap to reach him. After that, she only turned and gave him the EYE. He polished his halo and made a swift about face. If your ladies WANT his attention, they'll find a way. If the do NOT want his attentions, they won't let him....and if he catches an unwilling one, she will certainly squawk, likely bringing one of the bigger girls over to thump him.

Something else to consider. Hatchery stock isn't necessarily bred to standards, so he may not reach that size.
 
Hector was a big boy (9-10 pounds) Lark and Indigo (and Twirp) tiny (3 pounds sopping wet). Generally speaking, hens of the same breed as the roo are smaller....and faster. A small hen can out run the larger roo, so can avoid getting bred unless he corners her. Twirp got caught by Hector as a hormonal idiot exactly ONCE. He climbed on, she squished into the soft ground (inside the coop, so straw and shavings), squirmed out from under him, turned around and kicked him in the FACE with both feet. He had gotten fully back up on his fight, so she had quite the leap to reach him. After that, she only turned and gave him the EYE. He polished his halo and made a swift about face. If your ladies WANT his attention, they'll find a way. If the do NOT want his attentions, they won't let him....and if he catches an unwilling one, she will certainly squawk, likely bringing one of the bigger girls over to thump him.

Something else to consider. Hatchery stock isn't necessarily bred to standards, so he may not reach that size.
I didn’t know what reaction to use because this gave me a chuckle and was also reassuring.
You guys are going to have to put up with me worrying my way through this. That is what I do!
Fortunately I have lots of cute pics for tax.
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Weighing Geronimo and Chippy (still a temporary name) is a great idea. But one with a fatal flaw: How to catch them? I might be able to get Chippy as he is becoming curious about where Tassels finds those blueberries he loves so much and what that big chicken has to do with their supply. He jumped up onto my little table to study me more closely.
Do you have some flat kitchen scales, or even bathroom scales if they're sensitive enough, that they might be persuaded to stand on for a second if there were blueberries on offer?
 

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