Exactly. I raised these girls from day old chicks. I kept their heat in their brooder exactly so, I fussed over their pasty butts, gave them vitamins and electrolytes. I kept their brooder in my room so I could be a helicopter mom.
I’m so fussy over their food and treats.
I did everything I could to keep them safe.
Now I’m wracking my brain trying to think if the coop isn’t safe enough. Did she have an accident getting on the roost? It’s depressing.
This is the downside to keeping chickens. They die. Sometimes we will never know why. Sometimes there's just nothing to be done but we make a difference to our chicken's' lives. They are well looked after, well fed, kept as safe & well looked after as we possibly can & they will still die ~ but for the time we have them we give them the very best we can & that is more than most chickens ever get so it is a very big thing.
 
I agree. They aren’t livestock to me, they are my pets.
Hubby and I just buried Dorothy today. I found her dead in the coop under the roost. I have no idea what happened. I examined her and she is perfectly normal except she is dead.
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I walked in the coop and saw her lying there.
As you can imagine I am really depressed.
She was going to be a year old in May. :(
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Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry. 😥😥😥😥

I am always a loss for words at times like these. :hugs :hugs
 
The flight didn’t take too long. An awesome tailwind kept me and my passenger safe. Jaime is back home now, and so am I. All the birds are safe and lovely as they ever were. Bob, thank you for caring. Without reservations, I love you and your family!
I am so glad that you are back safe and had an enjoyable flight. 👍
 
Exactly. I raised these girls from day old chicks. I kept their heat in their brooder exactly so, I fussed over their pasty butts, gave them vitamins and electrolytes. I kept their brooder in my room so I could be a helicopter mom.
I’m so fussy over their food and treats.
I did everything I could to keep them safe.
Now I’m wracking my brain trying to think if the coop isn’t safe enough. Did she have an accident getting on the roost? It’s depressing.
I find it hard to believe that it could from something like that. Chickens are not really accident prone but I would hate to guess. Without a necropsy there is no way to tell.

I found Trisha this same way. She had been egg bound 2 weeks before. I assigned it to complications from that but I really don't know. It did not change my grief. :hugs :hugs
 
I have tried in my time on BYC to do what I can to undermine the propaganda that would have us all believing that keeping chickens is just one big barrel of fun. It isn't, especially for those who have not had the experience to fully understand that getting the right chickens from the right place in the right condition is going to make a massive difference to the long term health of the chicken and the greatly reduce the stress and heartache of the keeper.
It really is worth spending a few months if necessary researching where to get ones chickens and which breeds are less likely to have serious health problems early in life.
The keel bone test is very misleading. Don't bother with it. There is not a chicken here that would pass such a test but they live, and from what I've read on this forum at least, live a lot longer than most.
If you want to keep track of whether a chicken is losing or gaining weight then you have to weight them. A chicken could lose a considerable amount of body weight and you would not know from feeling their keel bone.

You can do this Lozzy. Like everything else in life it's a learning curve. The unfortunate part is the penalty for not learning fast enough is very painful for those who care about the birds they acquire.

There is imo and in the opinion of those who keep chickens who I respect and can demonstrate good outcomes some very basic concepts that do unfortunately contradict just about everything that one can read on most chicken forums.

1) Chicken do not fare well in confinement. Their ancestors the jungle fowl will occupy up to 4 acres per tribe. Providing 10 square feet per bird and believing one has done enough to ensure their welfare is ridiculous. Yes, it's better than a cage, but to me it's rather like the child beater who states they have reformed because they only beat their child on weekends now.
2) Nature is far better at ensuring the best genetics go forward than humans are. Whenever possible leave matters of health to nature. I'm struggling with this one with Fat Bird at the moment.
3) Chicken are omnivorous and most commercial feeds are designed to provide the bare minimum to support a short life. Whenever possible free range your chickens. They have a much better idea of what they need to eat than you or I do.
4) I've read people getting a very hard time over this one but even reputable vets will say much the same. For many of the serious health problems, particularly with the high production breeds, it is far better to provide a quick and easy death for the chicken than it is to try and save their lives. I know many will not agree with this and many will cite success stories of intervention. Apart from the expense involved there is the stress and trauma for the chicken and owner. In most case terminal health problems are exactly that, terminal.

None of the above really helps you now I know. Not much of it helps me after ten years of caring for the chickens here and years caring for chickens on my uncles farm. This doesn't mean the rules/advice is wrong. It is however imo a set of considerations that anyone who keeps chickens and cares about their welfare should have in the back of their mind. It's how wee keep and breed the chickens we have that is killing them, not some inherent weakness in the species.

You contribute to these three threads Lozzy and just by that marker I know you can do this and learn in the process.:hugs
Thanks Shad, I’m feeling a bit better today about things. :hugs Everyone was eating this morning with gusto, so that was encouraging.
 
This is the downside to keeping chickens. They die. Sometimes we will never know why. Sometimes there's just nothing to be done but we make a difference to our chicken's' lives. They are well looked after, well fed, kept as safe & well looked after as we possibly can & they will still die ~ but for the time we have them we give them the very best we can & that is more than most chickens ever get so it is a very big thing.
Those are the words. I wish I was that eloquent. Thank you @Ribh
 
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