Well I think your post was actually very useful. He really is an avian vet. The practice sees chickens most days. We can’t blame him if Lulu is undiagnosable!
I didn’t love his attitude to isolation or worming even if there is no issue - but I can ignore both of those recommendations!
The list identified one other avian vet within a reasonable distance so I might try that one next time.
The vet I have been going to is more attune with my way of thinking (don’t treat unless there is something wrong, consider mental health too) but I feel like she is learning alongside me.
MJ’s vet seems to both have knowledge and empathy and be aligned with her thinking. That may be too much to ask.
Meanwhile Lulu seems to be doing OK this afternoon.
I'm sorry it didn't work out but it's good to have confirmation she's not egg bound. I hope the bloods will show what's wrong. I think you should've been allowed in as you may have been able to support his thinking.

I am very lucky wrt to the hens' vet. And the longer we know each other, the better our understanding gets. Speaking of which, Ivy and Janet have checkups Saturday morning.
 
Twofer Tuesday.
Bernadette and Maggie. Look at how big Bernie has grown! I must get a weight on her she is a bit flighty so she isn’t the easiest to handle.
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I'm sorry it didn't work out but it's good to have confirmation she's not egg bound. I hope the bloods will show what's wrong. I think you should've been allowed in as you may have been able to support his thinking.

I am very lucky wrt to the hens' vet. And the longer we know each other, the better our understanding gets. Speaking of which, Ivy and Janet have checkups Saturday morning.
I feel like I have a good relationship with the other vet I found - and for Bernadette's leg she was perfect because she knew bird anatomy so could confirm nothing was out of place or broken and was then willing to work with me as we invented splints etc. But basically I don't think she has much chicken-specific knowledge.

This new guy I suspect knows his stuff (I looked up all his qualifications). I have no relationship with him as I never met him and I think he may be a tad dismissive of the owner. I was just reflecting, he found cecal worms and treated them with Ivermectin without asking me. I had to ask the receptionist when I collected Lulu what drug he had used. Now Ivermectin is off label and not supposed to be used in laying hens. Good that he is willing to go off label. Not so good that he wouldn't ask me first whether I was OK with the ambiguity of when it would be safe to eat her eggs. So I don't feel like I would ever partner with him in care like I did with the lady vet and Bernadette. Hmmm.

I will definitely try out the other one on the list next time - and maybe I mix and match based on the situation.
 
I feel like I have a good relationship with the other vet I found - and for Bernadette's leg she was perfect because she knew bird anatomy so could confirm nothing was out of place or broken and was then willing to work with me as we invented splints etc. But basically I don't think she has much chicken-specific knowledge.

This new guy I suspect knows his stuff (I looked up all his qualifications). I have no relationship with him as I never met him and I think he may be a tad dismissive of the owner. I was just reflecting, he found cecal worms and treated them with Ivermectin without asking me. I had to ask the receptionist when I collected Lulu what drug he had used. Now Ivermectin is off label and not supposed to be used in laying hens. Good that he is willing to go off label. Not so good that he wouldn't ask me first whether I was OK with the ambiguity of when it would be safe to eat her eggs. So I don't feel like I would ever partner with him in care like I did with the lady vet and Bernadette. Hmmm.

I will definitely try out the other one on the list next time - and maybe I mix and match based on the situation.
It's almost like he's not across the code of ethics (assuming there is such a thing - there is in Australia).
 
I feel like I have a good relationship with the other vet I found - and for Bernadette's leg she was perfect because she knew bird anatomy so could confirm nothing was out of place or broken and was then willing to work with me as we invented splints etc. But basically I don't think she has much chicken-specific knowledge.

This new guy I suspect knows his stuff (I looked up all his qualifications). I have no relationship with him as I never met him and I think he may be a tad dismissive of the owner. I was just reflecting, he found cecal worms and treated them with Ivermectin without asking me. I had to ask the receptionist when I collected Lulu what drug he had used. Now Ivermectin is off label and not supposed to be used in laying hens. Good that he is willing to go off label. Not so good that he wouldn't ask me first whether I was OK with the ambiguity of when it would be safe to eat her eggs. So I don't feel like I would ever partner with him in care like I did with the lady vet and Bernadette. Hmmm.

I will definitely try out the other one on the list next time - and maybe I mix and match based on the situation.
Mix n matching is a great idea because it will support the vet you like in expanding her expertise.
 
She's looking absolutely gorgeous RC!
After an inauspicious start she is turning out to be rather glorious. She is a bird you notice with her gold neck and very upright stance. Her stance doesn’t show in that picture but I will take some others. She always stands very tall if you know what I mean.
 
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After an inauspicious start she is turning out to be rather glorious. She is a bird you notice with her gold neck and very upright stance. Her stance doesn’t show in that picture but I will take some others. She always stands very tall if you know what I mean.
I do know what you mean. And I'd love to see photos of her.
 

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