Lol! See you KNOW what i'm talking about! I'm not anti dog but right now i'm blissfully dog turd free. I'd have to pick up the poop, couldn't have chickens eating poops. It is about to be winter and I just don't see me freezing, going on the worst treasure hunt ever. Plus I don't want to do all that don't eat the chickens and cat stuff. The fence isn't up to snuff for a dog either and it would have to be super secure for a shepard. Going to sound awful and I aplogise in advance to anybody who has one but I just don't like german shepards. I don't trust them, they seem much too driven for my personal comfort.