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Might as well be...the Med's are from the same region & all most likely dating back to Legs
Not so.


https://www.communitychickens.com/the-mediterranean-breeds/

The white faced Spanish is the oldest of the Mediterranean breeds, predating 1600. The Penedesencas and the Empordanesas lay brown eggs ("almost black in young pullets").

Also, breeds like the Scots Dumpy have been around for almost 1000 (yes, that's one THOUSAND) years. They have a straight comb (floppy in hens) and aren't Mediterranean body type.

https://chickenandchicksinfo.com/scots-dumpy-chicken-breed-info/

Same with Dorkings. They're another ancient breed, brought to Britain by Julius Ceasar. Also have floppy combs in hens and do NOT have a Mediterranean body type, despite their Roman origins.

https://globalcrystalpoultry.com/product/dorkings-chicken/

https://livestockconservancy.org/dorking-chicken/

Leghorns are relatively new in comparison. From the Tuscany region of Italy, derived from light breeds. Unless Italy has records predating this, nothing is really known about them before early 1800s, when they were first exported.
 
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Not so.


https://www.communitychickens.com/the-mediterranean-breeds/

The white faced Spanish is the oldest of the Mediterranean breeds, predating 1600. The Penedesencas and the Empordanesas lay brown eggs ("almost black in young pullets").

Also, breeds like the Scots Dumpy have been around for almost 1000 (yes, that's one THOUSAND) years. They have a straight comb (floppy in hens) and aren't Mediterranean body type.

https://chickenandchicksinfo.com/scots-dumpy-chicken-breed-info/

Same with Dorkings. They're another ancient breed, brought to Britain by Julius Ceasar. Also have floppy combs in hens and do NOT have a Mediterranean body type, despite their Roman origins.

https://globalcrystalpoultry.com/product/dorkings-chicken/

https://livestockconservancy.org/dorking-chicken/

Leghorns are relatively new in comparison. From the Tuscany region of Italy, derived from light breeds. Unless Italy has records predating this, nothing is really known about them before early 1800s, when they were first exported.
Maybe a landrace ‘breed’ that caught on and was developed into its present day egg machine :confused:
 
Not so.


https://www.communitychickens.com/the-mediterranean-breeds/

The white faced Spanish is the oldest of the Mediterranean breeds, predating 1600. The Penedesencas and the Empordanesas lay brown eggs ("almost black in young pullets").

Also, breeds like the Scots Dumpy have been around for almost 1000 (yes, that's one THOUSAND) years. They have a straight comb (floppy in hens) and aren't Mediterranean body type.

https://chickenandchicksinfo.com/scots-dumpy-chicken-breed-info/

Same with Dorkings. They're another ancient breed, brought to Britain by Julius Ceasar. Also have floppy combs in hens and do NOT have a Mediterranean body type, despite their Roman origins.

https://globalcrystalpoultry.com/product/dorkings-chicken/

https://livestockconservancy.org/dorking-chicken/

Leghorns are relatively new in comparison. From the Tuscany region of Italy, derived from light breeds. Unless Italy has records predating this, nothing is really known about them before early 1800s, when they were first exported.
Fascinating.
Thanks for sharing.
Not about breeds, but the history of chickens, I highly recommend this book.
https://www.amazon.com/Why-Did-Chic...d=cbd7a74c-eb27-430c-939f-13eb42219791&nodl=1
 
Not so.


https://www.communitychickens.com/the-mediterranean-breeds/

The white faced Spanish is the oldest of the Mediterranean breeds, predating 1600. The Penedesencas and the Empordanesas lay brown eggs ("almost black in young pullets").

Also, breeds like the Scots Dumpy have been around for almost 1000 (yes, that's one THOUSAND) years. They have a straight comb (floppy in hens) and aren't Mediterranean body type.

https://chickenandchicksinfo.com/scots-dumpy-chicken-breed-info/

Same with Dorkings. They're another ancient breed, brought to Britain by Julius Ceasar. Also have floppy combs in hens and do NOT have a Mediterranean body type, despite their Roman origins.

https://globalcrystalpoultry.com/product/dorkings-chicken/

https://livestockconservancy.org/dorking-chicken/

Leghorns are relatively new in comparison. From the Tuscany region of Italy, derived from light breeds. Unless Italy has records predating this, nothing is really known about them before early 1800s, when they were first exported.
So many breeds, I am intrigued by those Scottish dumpy.
 
I have been reading a BYC thread on how cold is too cold. It is an old, old thread but has lots of contributions from people in places where they have below 0°F for days on end and don’t use heat.
I am feeling a bit braver.
I am going to try the umbrellas and put the oil-filled radiator in the broody jail so I am ready but I am going to observe behavior before turning on extra heat.
Once again Piglet moved away from the heat panel in the middle of the night as did Pooh shortly after dark. Calypso (who has the least feathers) stayed by the panels as did Tassels who has enough fluff to keep everyone warm if she chose!
An addition to the plan is to wrap the metal bracket that Sylvie is using - I thought I would use that rug underlay that grips. I cannot believe sitting on bare metal in those temperatures is sensible! And I will close the pop door so they are confined inside the house. Normally I leave it open so they can go out into their run whenever they choose.

Current situation. Piglet has moved far from the panels. Pooh and Sylvie are way over on the other side with Sylvie on the bracket which is bare metal. Only the two black chickens are staying by the panels.
On this pic you can see the overhang of the brooder/hospital box which is where I can set up a daytime warming station. Will be cozy under there with a small oil-filled radiator (I have several and can lend the Princesses the one that I use under my desk to keep my toes toasty).
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I have been reading a BYC thread on how cold is too cold. It is an old, old thread but has lots of contributions from people in places where they have below 0°F for days on end and don’t use heat.
I am feeling a bit braver.
I am going to try the umbrellas and put the oil-filled radiator in the broody jail so I am ready but I am going to observe behavior before turning on extra heat.
Once again Piglet moved away from the heat panel in the middle of the night as did Pooh shortly after dark. Calypso (who has the least feathers) stayed by the panels as did Tassels who has enough fluff to keep everyone warm if she chose!
An addition to the plan is to wrap the metal bracket that Sylvie is using - I thought I would use that rug underlay that grips. I cannot believe sitting on bare metal in those temperatures is sensible! And I will close the pop door so they are confined inside the house. Normally I leave it open so they can go out into their run whenever they choose.

Current situation. Piglet has moved far from the panels. Pooh and Sylvie are way over on the other side with Sylvie on the bracket which is bare metal. Only the two black chickens are staying by the panels.
On this pic you can see the overhang of the brooder/hospital box which is where I can set up a daytime warming station. Will be cozy under there with a small oil-filled radiator (I have several and can lend the Princesses the one that I use under my desk to keep my toes toasty).
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Sounds good! I agree. Drafts and moisture are more important to address. The little cubby looks great!

That gripper stuff I use a lot for chicks to help them get around on any odd smooth surfaces as they get strength. Should work well, you could attach with little bungee balls, so you can remove and clean/replace. Or electricians tape on the underside if it curls too much. I think @micstrachan uses towels which she washes and changes.
 
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Sounds good! I agree. Drafts and moisture are more important to address. The little cubby looks great!

That gripper stuff I use a lot for chicks to help them get around on any odd smooth surfaces as they get strength. Should work well, you could attach with little bungee balls, so you can remove and clean/replace. Or electricians tape on the underside if it curls too much. I think @micstrachan uses towels which she washes and changes.
Yep. I used towels attached with ball bungees and do wash them periodically. I do it for anti-slip, but I supposed it’s also a little cozier on bare feet. However, we don’t approach the how cold is too cold temperatures here. We get frost sometimes, but frozen waterers is never a concern here. It would never happen.
 
I've seen wild bird rescues where vet's operate or fix these types of injuries cuz birds rely on their legs, wings, beaks for everything... but I shudder to think what it would cost for a domestic vet treatment 🥺?
Yes, and Bridge is almost nine. I don’t know if I want to risk anesthesia. I might bring her in for an opinion, though. She also has what seems to be a cyst just above her crop.
 

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