There is evidence that both these can help to reduce worm load. My belief is there are many more plants, roots and bugs that can do the same. The problems is for many chickens, they don't get out and about in the right environment to find these things.For a wormer I've used be bentonite clay and heard pumpkin seeds work as well
I have palpitations at moult time for example when the hens lose interest in the commercial feed. But, having watched them forage and felt their crops at dusk it is apparent that they are eating. They seem to know what it is they need and it isn't commercial feed!
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