Fluffy Butt Acres: Stories of our flock

[ChicoryBlue]

If we take the the theory that she laid a soft-shelled egg and everyone ate it then the behavior fits. She had trouble laying it but once she did expel the egg she felt better.

If she had an egg break inside her. Once she has expelled it all she will also perk up. The danger here is something remains inside and she develops an infection.

In my experience, if she had/has salpingitis once the tubes are scarred she will have good and bad days. The bad days will correspond to days where she has laid an egg internally. Once the egg absorbs into the abdomen she will perk up again. It will cycle like that until she develops ascites.

The problem with salpingitis is that there is not a lot to help you catch it early. Once there are significant symptoms it's usually too late.

So how does this all help right now? The key to this is to know whether to treat with antibiotics right now or not.

When I'm faced with a decision like this I try to look at the downside. If you treat with antibiotics this will involve handling her a lot. It also involves feeding her a liquid which if you are not comfortable with it can be traumatic and does carry some risk of aspiration. While you should not treat with antibiotics willy nilly because of resistance they are actually pretty safe.

You should make your own list and consider all positives and negatives. I can't tell you what to do. I'm just trying to talk it out here.

I don’t see too much downside except for aspiration and whether a course of antibiotics is going to upset her digestion like it can with humans. She is relatively easy to handle, was pretty calm for the pill popping, I think she did not mind the burrito wrap, maybe it was easier for her as her feet were more stable than directly on my leg, and definitely calm for the epsom soak - only got upset in the beginning as I lowered her into the kitchen sink, before there was any water in it - I think, like a cat, they don’t want to be put below decks, they always want up for safety. Today I put the scale on top of the feeder, where they never go, and I think the newness helped and the height was an advantage in feeling secure, they all stayed put on it with me hardly touching their feathers. Can the liquid be given in a little ball of bread, like a pill?

I am not a willy-nilly kind of person with this stuff and have thought about it already for a couple days. It seems to me that this might help her if there was or is lingering infection, and so put off something that may eventually be unavoidable. I do think that she has had egg issues all along and it will be her undoing down the road. I had slacked off on the calcium, thinking they had really slowed in laying and wanted to spare their kidneys. I don’t know if that contributed here, but seeing her in distress told me there definitely was and maybe still is a problem. Maybe this can help.

I will look for measuring syringes tomorrow. She weighed 5 lbs 3 oz today. The ounces moved around as they shifted the weight on their feet…

 

[bgmathteach]

I don’t see too much downside except for aspiration and whether a course of antibiotics is going to upset her digestion like it can with humans. She is relatively easy to handle, was pretty calm for the pill popping, I think she did not mind the burrito wrap, maybe it was easier for her as her feet were more stable than directly on my leg, and definitely calm for the epsom soak - only got upset in the beginning as I lowered her into the kitchen sink, before there was any water in it - I think, like a cat, they don’t want to be put below decks, they always want up for safety. Today I put the scale on top of the feeder, where they never go, and I think the newness helped and the height was an advantage in feeling secure, they all stayed put on it with me hardly touching their feathers. Can the liquid be given in a little ball of bread, like a pill?

I am not a willy-nilly kind of person with this stuff and have thought about it already for a couple days. It seems to me that this might help her if there was or is lingering infection, and so put off something that may eventually be unavoidable. I do think that she has had egg issues all along and it will be her undoing down the road. I had slacked off on the calcium, thinking they had really slowed in laying and wanted to spare their kidneys. I don’t know if that contributed here, but seeing her in distress told me there definitely was and maybe still is a problem. Maybe this can help.

I will look for measuring syringes tomorrow. She weighed 5 lbs 3 oz today. The ounces moved around as they shifted the weight on their feet…

So, I hate to say this, but do you live near a Walmart? Here the local Walmart Pharmacy will give free (disposable, but I've cleaned & reused them) syringes. Just say you need it to administer liquid meds. They will ask volume (ccs) and give you an appropriate sized syringe. I assume they would be the same out there as here.

 

[featherhead007]

My favourite is naproxen, you can get it over the counter as Aleve, it’s the best thing I find for my migraines and my arthritis! But I can only take one or two doses and then it really bothers my gut. Have tried celebrex but it does nothing for me.

I have meloxicam here that doesn’t really do diddly for me either but the old thoroughbred can take it, and I am told chickens can take it! It’s 1-2mg/kg for poultry. Since my tablets are 15mg it would be hard to get it to 1-2mg. But I am sure a compounding pharmacy would do it for me.

For my RLS, I take lyrica along with tramacet both act to decrease the legs spasms and the fire ants crawling sensation. But will need to stop this for a few nights now…

I found a really good info site on poultry pain mngmnt.

https://bitchinchickens.com/2021/03/22/dealing-with-pain-in-chickens/

Thanks for that. I have Aleve and took one. My chickens aren’t in pain, but they are a pain in the…. Sometimes!

 

[RoyalChick]

I don’t see too much downside except for aspiration and whether a course of antibiotics is going to upset her digestion like it can with humans. She is relatively easy to handle, was pretty calm for the pill popping, I think she did not mind the burrito wrap, maybe it was easier for her as her feet were more stable than directly on my leg, and definitely calm for the epsom soak - only got upset in the beginning as I lowered her into the kitchen sink, before there was any water in it - I think, like a cat, they don’t want to be put below decks, they always want up for safety. Today I put the scale on top of the feeder, where they never go, and I think the newness helped and the height was an advantage in feeling secure, they all stayed put on it with me hardly touching their feathers. Can the liquid be given in a little ball of bread, like a pill?

I am not a willy-nilly kind of person with this stuff and have thought about it already for a couple days. It seems to me that this might help her if there was or is lingering infection, and so put off something that may eventually be unavoidable. I do think that she has had egg issues all along and it will be her undoing down the road. I had slacked off on the calcium, thinking they had really slowed in laying and wanted to spare their kidneys. I don’t know if that contributed here, but seeing her in distress told me there definitely was and maybe still is a problem. Maybe this can help.

I will look for measuring syringes tomorrow. She weighed 5 lbs 3 oz today. The ounces moved around as they shifted the weight on their feet…

I got syringes on Amazon but I am sure pharmacies will have them. Also any vet clinic.
One ml syringe (no needle) is what you need.

 

[TX Chick Noob]

@Ponypoor Some wattle pics for you…

 

[Ponypoor]

@Ponypoor Some wattle pics for you…

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Awwwww thanks I see she is singing with me! It’s Queens ‘I want to break free’ - right?

 

[Ponypoor]

Back Down Again

I swear I put Hattie on the roost next to Betty.

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Hmmmm wonder why she doesn’t want to roost there? I one that’s does that sometimes.

 

[Ponypoor]

Thanks for that. I have Aleve and took one. My chickens aren’t in pain, but they are a pain in the…. Sometimes!

Yup - I unloaded some shavings bales I got and that always bothers my back - heavy stuff like bales of hay feed shavings…

The chickies and ponies oversee my work and ensure it’s done to their specifications hahaha

Late thirsty time

 

[Ponypoor]

Hope your migraine gets better. You need to be well for your new job! (and miserable feeling miserable!

Thanks - migraine Is gone, just checking chickies and ponies on barn cam I was awoken at 12 am, now it’s 1:35 am…. And I am so furious at this cheeky rat hanging out at Reenies stall door eating her spilt grains

Going to put the zapper by Reenies door tomorrow night (tonight??)

I see he has his headlights on!

Meanwhile Sophia looks like she is roosting in air! She must be right on the edge of that box top!

 

[Ponypoor]

So, I hate to say this, but do you live near a Walmart? Here the local Walmart Pharmacy will give free (disposable, but I've cleaned & reused them) syringes. Just say you need it to administer liquid meds. They will ask volume (ccs) and give you an appropriate sized syringe. I assume they would be the same out there as here.

Also ask if they have them WITHOUT a ‘luer lock’ that is the mechanism on tithe syringe tip that sometimes incorporates a locking mechanism to hold the needle to the syringe.

The small 1 ml syringes I got to worm my kiddos had that and I had to fiddle with cutting away from the actual syringe.