Fluffy Butt Acres: Stories of our flock

[GregnLety]

I used to collect the shavings from the chainsaw users that also rip their wood instead of splitting it, not just buck it up, spread them out on a tarp, dry and bag it during summer… now I just buy them at $20/ bag compressed. It doesn’t matter in the end how it happens as long as the girls are happy and have their bedding!

I agree Kris. I had plans to rent a chipper shredder and make my own but I changed jobs and can't count on it. I bought 4 bales of shavings and put them where Lety wanted them.

I hope all is going well and am anxiously waiting for an update on your home building.

 

[featherhead007]

Slight headache

It’s windy and cold outside. Coco is keeping me company. The cat is just hanging out:

 

[GregnLety]

Happy Veterans Day!

Freedom tax

 

[ChicoryBlue]

I checked the Baytril shipping bag and yay it came with a dispenser like the one I have on the left in my supplies!
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From my cat (mostly) and chicken supplies. The two on the left are 1ml in total.

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Dosage? What does everyone think? I’m finding at least two approaches and I’m inclined to go with casportpony below, but that means twice a day dosing.

Peanut weighed 5 lbs ~3 oz yesterday. So her weight in kilograms would be:

83 ounces / 35.274 oz per kilogram = 2.353 kilograms

All Bird Products suggests
“Total number of birds x Average body weight in kg x 0.1= Total volume (ml) per day”
So it would be 2.353 x 0.1 = 0.2353 mil of Baytril once per day.

I also found this from casportpony in June of this year, for broken egg: https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...hicken-with-bloody-vent.1531823/post-25828258

“And the best antibiotic for this (broken egg) is Baytril:
Baytril 10% - All Bird Products
The dose I use is 0.07 ml per pound of body weight twice a day orally”

Which would be 5.1875 pounds (5 pounds and then 16 oz into 3 oz = .1875 pounds) x .07 ml = 0.363125 ml, given twice a day.

Then again Wyorp recommends —
“With reproductive problems, they can wax and wane.
I'd try the calcium again. You can give the Baytril orally, dose is 0.05 ml per pound of weight given orally twice a day for 5 days.”

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/egg-broke-inside-hen.1543205/post-26094638

 

[RoyalChick]

I checked the Baytril shipping bag and yay it came with a dispenser like the one I have on the left in my supplies!
View attachment 3319301

From my cat (mostly) and chicken supplies. The two on the left are 1ml in total.

View attachment 3319290

Dosage? What does everyone think? I’m finding at least two approaches and I’m inclined to go with casportpony below, but that means twice a day dosing.

Peanut weighed 5 lbs ~3 oz yesterday. So her weight in kilograms would be:

83 ounces / 35.274 oz per kilogram = 2.353 kilograms

All Bird Products suggests
“Total number of birds x Average body weight in kg x 0.1= Total volume (ml) per day”
So it would be 2.353 x 0.1 = 0.2353 mil of Baytril once per day.

I also found this from casportpony in June of this year, for broken egg: https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...hicken-with-bloody-vent.1531823/post-25828258

“And the best antibiotic for this (broken egg) is Baytril:
Baytril 10% - All Bird Products
The dose I use is 0.07 ml per pound of body weight twice a day orally”

Which would be 5.1875 pounds (5 pounds and then 16 oz into 3 oz = .1875 pounds) x .07 ml = 0.363125 ml, given twice a day.

OK I dug up all the back and forth I had with Bob, the dosing info i researched from academic studies, Merck veterinary manual, Poultry DVM etc.

The bottom line is for the 10% solution you give 0.1ml per kg of weight two times a day. The mistake on the bottle is that it says to only give that amount daily.

So if she is 5.1875 pounds she is 2.35kg so 0.23ml - which rounded up is 0.25ml. And you give that twice a day.
Casportpony's 0.7ml per lb is more than the 0.1ml/kg but I think in the range of dosing I found from the academic literature.
Also, even with a 1ml syringe, it is hard to be accurate in actually drawing it up so I think you are aiming to somewhere between 0.25-0.35ml for each dose and you should give it twice a day.

It is actually a very small volume of liquid so if she has appetite I would drop it onto a bit of bread (bread absorbs liquid very well) and have her eat that (but only her). I found that quite easy even with Maggie and when Maggie wised up that it wasn't normal bread I was still able to pop the bread in her beak quite easily.

Finally, how many days. Bob and others advocate 5 days. There is some research to say 3 days is enough. I have always gone with 5 days.

Good luck - PM me if you need anything.

 

[ChicoryBlue]

Then again Wyorp recommends —
“With reproductive problems, they can wax and wane.
I'd try the calcium again. You can give the Baytril orally, dose is 0.05 ml per pound of weight given orally twice a day for 5 days.”

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/egg-broke-inside-hen.1543205/post-26094638

EDIT disregard this post!
So @RoyalChick I agree, I should go with either casportpony’s or wyorp’s dosage.
Even accounting for pounds vs kilos the difference between Baytril’s daily dose and these two others is quite significant.

 

[RoyalChick]

Then again Wyorp recommends —
“With reproductive problems, they can wax and wane.
I'd try the calcium again. You can give the Baytril orally, dose is 0.05 ml per pound of weight given orally twice a day for 5 days.”

https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/egg-broke-inside-hen.1543205/post-26094638

That is basically the same dose as I gave you - 0.1ml per kg given morning and evening for 5 days.
Casportpony is a bit heavier in her dosing which is not a bad thing and there is a safety margin.
And, as I said, when you actually come to draw it up, tap out the air bubbles, and squint at the 1ml syringe, I defy you to be so accurate!

 

[bgmathteach]

Happy Veteran's Day!!!

Thank you to @featherhead007 , @GregnLety , and anyone else on here who served!

Military Appreciation Tax:

My young Welsummer girl (~7mos.) her last/final juvenile moult she ended up with that one tail feather that is askance!

 

[RoyalChick]

EDIT disregard this post!
So @RoyalChick I agree, I should go with either casportpony’s or wyorp’s dosage.
Even accounting for pounds vs kilos the difference between Baytril’s daily dose and these two others is quite significant.

Yes - I remember having the exact same problem and freaking out. And you know me, I am a researcher so I read pretty much every dosing study on the drug and had an big back and forth with Bob because I was so confused by the label on the bottle.
I am as close to certain as it is possible to be that the roughly 0.1ml per kg repeated morning and evening for 5 days is the correct dose for that 10% solution that you have.

 

[ChicoryBlue]

OK I dug up all the back and forth I had with Bob, the dosing info i researched from academic studies, Merck veterinary manual, Poultry DVM etc.

The bottom line is for the 10% solution you give 0.1ml per kg of weight two times a day. The mistake on the bottle is that it says to only give that amount daily.

So if she is 5.1875 pounds she is 2.35kg so 0.23ml - which rounded up is 0.25ml. And you give that twice a day.
Casportpony's 0.7ml per lb is more than the 0.1ml/kg but I think in the range of dosing I found from the academic literature.
Also, even with a 1ml syringe, it is hard to be accurate in actually drawing it up so I think you are aiming to somewhere between 0.25-0.35ml for each dose and you should give it twice a day.

It is actually a very small volume of liquid so if she has appetite I would drop it onto a bit of bread (bread absorbs liquid very well) and have her eat that (but only her). I found that quite easy even with Maggie and when Maggie wised up that it wasn't normal bread I was still able to pop the bread in her beak quite easily.

Finally, how many days. Bob and others advocate 5 days. There is some research to say 3 days is enough. I have always gone with 5 days.

Good luck - PM me if you need anything.

OK thank you, so helpful to get this straightened out for me!

Nobody thinks bread is very good to eat here, I tried it several days ago. But yes I thought I could pop some into her, given the success with the calcium pill - which she’s also getting today.