A conversation i had with a vet.

Shattered shad totally, and repeating this . :) please look into maryjanet 's thread
I've looked.
Marie, you need to stop.
If she does have a terminal liver problem there is nothing you can do about it.
Let her be. All this changing of diiet and trying to feed her herbs and stuff is just going to make her sicker.
If she is dying then all the concoctions and potions in the world are not going to save her.
What she needs is to be with her friends, to be kept warm, to have regular feed maybe in a mash and if she is in pain then Matacam which would need to be prescribed by a vet works well ime.
No baths, no tonics, no taking back and forth from her firends every ten minutes. Let her go and let her go with the least stress possible.
 
What a lovely lady. Jackie Onassis would be proud of her lovely headgear. Happy Hatch Day, Phyllis!
 
Speaking of the tri tip… anybody have suggestions on how to make it great? I’m having the few deputy sheriff friends over for dinner this evening, and while they “talk shop” I will be talking about bbqs steaks, and all about my chickens.
I'm not knowledgeable about what cut is what, but I'm a fan of simplicity. Pat dry, season with salt and pepper, pat dry again, and grill while meat is cold (refrigerator cold, not frozen). Then top with a pat of butter and tent with foil to let rest for a few minutes.

All of that being said, sounds like you bought pre-marinated. So just make sure to pat dry before grilling.
 
I've looked.
Marie, you need to stop.
If she does have a terminal liver problem there is nothing you can do about it.
Let her be. All this changing of diiet and trying to feed her herbs and stuff is just going to make her sicker.
If she is dying then all the concoctions and potions in the world are not going to save her.
What she needs is to be with her friends, to be kept warm, to have regular feed maybe in a mash and if she is in pain then Matacam which would need to be prescribed by a vet works well ime.
No baths, no tonics, no taking back and forth from her firends every ten minutes. Let her go and let her go with the least stress possible.
Excellent advice as usual.
 
I've looked.
Marie, you need to stop.
If she does have a terminal liver problem there is nothing you can do about it.
Let her be. All this changing of diiet and trying to feed her herbs and stuff is just going to make her sicker.
If she is dying then all the concoctions and potions in the world are not going to save her.
What she needs is to be with her friends, to be kept warm, to have regular feed maybe in a mash and if she is in pain then Matacam which would need to be prescribed by a vet works well ime.
No baths, no tonics, no taking back and forth from her firends every ten minutes. Let her go and let her go with the least stress possible.
@Marie2020 I know you don't want to hear this but I think Shad is right. In all animals (including the human kind) stress is a major contributor to ill health. In chickens reducing stress is a lot about being with their friends and about stability and familiarity (surroundings, routine etc.).
Equally her regular chicken food diet (mash may be easier for her to handle) is likely best. I doubt there will be much harm in a tiny (really tiny) bit of supplemental vitamins, electrolytes or probiotics (yoghurt) but I think mostly regular feed.
I know it is hard because it feels like you are not doing anything, but that is probably the best thing to do.
So sorry she is feeling unwell.
:hugs :hugs
 
I've had a terrific day.:wee
I had planned to do some responsible grown up stuff today. But, come mid day, the sun was shining and I looked out the window and thought to myself I know where I would like to be and there is lots to do there as well, so there I went. There, is of course the allotments and chickens.

I got another stretch of fence sorted. I will explain a bit about the whole setup at some point. This stretch of fence had no buried chicken wire and just the stock net at the bottom half. Very easy for a stoat or weasel to get into the run.
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I don't work flat out these days; pensioners privildge. So, I head back into the run and watch the chickens on a regular basis.
The area I cleared a while back under the trees has become the favourite resting place for the chickens. They have the run fence at their back, cover in the weeds and from the trees and a good line of sight into the open run area. Thing is, the geese like it as well. There is constant mild friction between the geese and the chickens. It's mostly hiss and spit but given the size difference between the geese and the chickens, even Henry who is not a small rooster, if I'm not there, gives way to the geese.
When I do herd the geese away they waddle off back towards their "end" of the run and that's it until next time.
The youngest male who is one of the grey geese fancies himself a bit and is the first to make that ungainly head lowered charge at a chicken given the chance. There is a pathway around the back of the large netted frame that sits at one end of the run. I'm right behind the geese herding them on when four of them peeled off right to go around the netted frame when Mr I'm well hard peels off left to go around the back. Lima is standing about halfway along the back path having a bit of a dig. Mr I'm well hard drops his head and makes a bit of a charge at Lima. I'm about to dive on him full rugby style. Lima jumps up and foreward, gets a double foot smack on the gooses head, gives him a peck on the beak on her way down and is up in the air again for another go.
Mr I'm well hard falls over as he attempts to go backwards (there isn't any room to go around) flaps himself 180 degrees and runs away to join the others.
To say I was gobsmacked is an understatement.
This is a view looking from the other end, the geese end. The geese were coming towards you in the picture, away from the chickens. As you can see where the pallet is there isn't a lot of room to get by.
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Just to remind you, Lima.
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And in case you can't think how big geese are compared to these chickens. That's Mr I'm well hard at the front.
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Lima, hats off to you! Ninja lady! 👌👍👏👏👏💗💗💗💗💗
 

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