This is for PonyPoor,
I have been buying Canadian food for the chooks.
The Black Soldier Fly larvae I get is a product of Canada 🇨🇦 and I purchased two more bags today. My usual friend from church, didn’t attend sadly. He missed a great sermon about the need to be humble and rules against narcissism! ( I preach a good sermon sometimes, and I’m so handsome!). Haha. Just kidding
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That was funny!
 
By the sounds of it, the chickens are not the only ones that will need water puddles

No joke ♥️ I am in the midst of some changes here and too busy to tend to new babies.

But next year I would like a nice lavender Orp and if I can find it some dark Brahma ♥️
And some vanilla tarts, maple bars 🇨🇦.. golden glaze, and a few sprinkles.? Maybe even a few French curlers. 🤦‍♂️ sounds like a lovely box of delicious donuts!
 
The brooder setup here, hopefully a far cry from Chickatraz! (@featherhead007). Added more Up places, and rearranged it some for landing runways and an alley for foot chases!
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I bought two of the ~40x40 ones, they zip together on the outside, and I clipped the inner bits together too at chick height and covered the walkway. They make a one-piece double one but the zippered doors are on opposite sides which didn't work for me. It doesn't have a floor so I used cardboard and taped it down.
This looks like a wonderful chick home/playground! And I LOVE the inventive use of the walker! Makes for a great chick 'jungle gym'❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
 
And the reason she does not vaccinate? Did she share that?
Yes, her reasoning is exactly the same one that has come up here on a few occasions. “The vaccine has been known to be leaky and I can’t vaccinate the chicks without risking my flock.”

Now this lady has some very valuable Dark Brahmas she shows and takes her birds very seriously. I believe she thinks she is doing what is best for her flock and for people she sells to. The show barn I got the silkies from believes the exact same for the same reasons. As did Alchemist Farms where I got my first chickens from. I think many people believe this.

I am with RC on this though and I do believe the study that said this has been misinterpreted and also not supported by other studies.

I will admit I was not overly concerned as I had never had an issue here, this may well prove to have been a huge mistake depending on how things go with Rue. It remains a possibility I can’t dismiss. I am currently seriously considering sending blood to the lab RC mentioned. I would very much like know one way or another.
 
Yes, her reasoning is exactly the same one that has come up here on a few occasions. “The vaccine has been known to be leaky and I can’t vaccinate the chicks without risking my flock.”

Now this lady has some very valuable Dark Brahmas she shows and takes her birds very seriously. I believe she thinks she is doing what is best for her flock and for people she sells to. The show barn I got the silkies from believes the exact same for the same reasons. As did Alchemist Farms where I got my first chickens from. I think many people believe this.

I am with RC on this though and I do believe the study that said this has been misinterpreted and also not supported by other studies.

I will admit I was not overly concerned as I had never had an issue here, this may well prove to have been a huge mistake depending on how things go with Rue. It remains a possibility I can’t dismiss. I am currently seriously considering sending blood to the lab RC mentioned. I would very much like know one way or another.
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And some vanilla tarts, maple bars 🇨🇦.. golden glaze, and a few sprinkles.? Maybe even a few French curlers. 🤦‍♂️ sounds like a lovely box of delicious donuts!
Curlers? Oh cruller 😁👍♥️

They aren’t donuts you know 😊♥️ They are crullers

FYI- do not eat these in the barn were chickens can hop up and grab that sucker and take off with it. Brats!
 
Yes, her reasoning is exactly the same one that has come up here on a few occasions. “The vaccine has been known to be leaky and I can’t vaccinate the chicks without risking my flock.”

Now this lady has some very valuable Dark Brahmas she shows and takes her birds very seriously. I believe she thinks she is doing what is best for her flock and for people she sells to. The show barn I got the silkies from believes the exact same for the same reasons. As did Alchemist Farms where I got my first chickens from. I think many people believe this.

I am with RC on this though and I do believe the study that said this has been misinterpreted and also not supported by other studies.

I will admit I was not overly concerned as I had never had an issue here, this may well prove to have been a huge mistake depending on how things go with Rue. It remains a possibility I can’t dismiss. I am currently seriously considering sending blood to the lab RC mentioned. I would very much like know one way or another.

My Peavey Mart chicks were all
Mareks and Coccidiosis vaccinated. No problems at all, I had no worries about it.

The term leaky virus is used for a live virus vaccine that can infect another unvax’ed host. Very rare and has to have some special circumstances to make this leap.

I think people hear about the issue with polio being transmitted over here by children that have been vaccinated with a live polio vaccine in some 3rd world countries, they arrive in NA and have been known to infect others who have not been vaccinated here. And actually Polio is considered eradicated (thank goodness!), so when people hear about an ‘out break’ here they panic - no one is given a polio vaccine now that I know of.

I think there is a newer type of Mareks vaccine - I seem to recall having read some where.
 

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