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I am able to find sardines in water with no salt added on Amazon.I've taken on board about cat food towards feeding princess, it was a huge success.
There's a store in my nearest town that has their own brand. It's a pate' turkey with liver. I mixed this into her layers and mixed corn and she happily sat on my lap and ate. Making her little approving sounds. She was eating her layers as well as I'd mixed everything in together.
She's now in the garden but I'll have to sadly put her out the back shortly because I only had on tray of the pate' and will have to get more. Would sardines be okay under these circumstances or would this be to oily?
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Yogurt with acidophilus types is what I would give her, several bites each day if she likes it. And what @Ponypoor writes, soft food possibly. I don’t know where tapeworms hang out but the gizzard could be inflamed too. In the poultry dvm online they write fenbendazole works on some types of tapeworms but not all. So she’s going through two courses, whatever the side effects are. Make sure she’s drinking at least.Hey Marie ! It's good to see Princess is doing better and I hope you are as well.
You probably have given her the sardines by now, but here is my opinion. Fat in itself isn't necessarily an issue for chickens every now and then, just like for us, especially something like virgin olive or safflower oil which is usually what comes around the sardines. Excessive carbohydrates are much more likely to make chickens fat and unhealthy (corn..).But the oil in the sardines automatically multiply the number of calories by three or four so you have to take this into account and give Princess a smaller portion. I don't know what size your tins are ; ours vary from 90 to 110 grams, and if it's on addition to what the chicken usually eats and not instead of, I give about a fourth daily to a single chicken, more or less depending on it's size.
Or, you can maybe buy sardines without oil. I do that but you have to rinse them because they are kept in salted water. They have much less calories.
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So what would this be, a straight and rose hybrid?
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I have another question for you people that are used to giving antibiotics. Up to now I was always prescribed the same one for wounds and bumblefeet and the chickens seemed otherwise healthy. Now I have just finished a ten days treatment for Lilly, who has bumblefoot, and because she has a heavy load of tapeworms I have also treated her consecutively with Panacur (fenbendazole) which did nothing, and Praziquantel a few days after (worm out gel) which I am hoping will be effective.
Anyway while she is not really unwell, she seems a bit down under, often resting, and just looking pale. I see people mentioning to use probiotics after a course of antibiotics, but we don't have any for birds here. Should I give her a tiny amount of yogurt for a while ? How about vitamins ? She used to hang out in the garden all the time but now she isn't so keen on going far, so i’m not sure if I should try supplementing her. Any idea ?
Have a lovely weekend everyone!
@ManueB What @Ponypoor wrote I have read about also, but I will add I thought it also becomes a systemic issue - so if there is a very heavy load of worms then you don’t want them all dying at once inside the chicken. I read a recommendation to go slowly with the treatment, in fact not aiming to kill all of them all at once. Maybe in two separate courses with some recovery time between?Re: wormers & antibiotics
With horses that have had a heavy parasite load, if they were wormed and had a large amt shed their intestines become inflamed, I wonder if this is the case with Lilly.
I would give her supportive care and a soft food for a couple days. As long as she is eating and drinking I would give supportive care. Not really much else to do. With antibiotics the same - she could have some intestinal irritation. You can try yogurt (there is a type that is high in good bacteria but I can’t remember what it is now), I have given regular yogurt here as treats and they enjoy it.
Thank you, @ManueB ! I enjoyed the review, checking if I missed anything!FBA chicken event synopsis
4 to 11 November
Link to previous synopsis : https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27291232
@BY Bob :
Has been having a hard week at work so few news from the FBA chickens.
He did post an update on molting :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27292166
And a goofy senior moment tax https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27297171
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@BeastBaby
Welcome to FBA, beastbaby! And a lovely twofer :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27297237
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@bgmathteach : a cute injured pullet healing and her friend for Monday mugs and an update on the egg crisis :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27296098
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@ChicoryBlue :
Hazel seems to have caught the respiratory disease
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27296393
She’s on five days Baytril, which seems to help.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27299512
Pavers done ! a preening gland issue ?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27301524
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@Desertvalleychickens
Picture of Onyx's molt
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27293407
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@featherhead007
Dear Coco...
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27296996
Possible plans for moving north!
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27302778
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@GregnLety
Is finally back home and sick, but happy.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27301748
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@lightm : flowering saffron !
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27293193
Poppy and Wendy cute pics :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27295450
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@Lilion
Update on wounded Eenie, and decided to try to re-home both boys.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27297365
Manny is re-homed ! https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27304073
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@Marie2020
We all grieve Tina. She had been very unwell on Sunday, and passed Monday morning. Marie had just been wondering about her future with the girls, whether or not to take more chickens, or maybe let them at a wonderful place for rescues she has discovered.
So she was very worried about Princess and everyone on FBA tried to reassure her.
Princess https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27296659
Counting small blessings
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27295017
Doing better !
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27303223
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27304181
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@Ponypoor :
Henny penny is sitting. Cute picture : https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27293305
And a bunch of pictures:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27295451
Tuefer Tuesday pics : https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27296689
Egg candling:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27297977
Eggs update :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27302397
Congratulations on your second place for the pumpkin pecking contest
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/bycs-2023-spooktacular-halloween-hatch-along—poultry-pecking-pumpkins-photo-contest.1599120/post-27302869
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@RebeccaBoyd
Favourite pic ever, not a chicken ! !https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27293598
Poppets is a sassy spunky Silkie!
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27295879
Possum's problem?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27301099
Re-homed two hormonal cockerels, relieved but sad.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27302672
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@RoyalChick has come to the conclusion that comb types and names are just a silly human servant invention.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/members/rural-mouse.618433/
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27302298
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@rural mouse
A sad long story, involving again a dog attack.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27291380
Fly high, Granite and Quartz. You certainly both made the most of your short lives.
Some good news : Twirp has been found. After spending some time in the house with Whiskey as a companion , she chose to be with the chickens.
Twirp is hanging out with her people. https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27293437
Pictures of Shan and others :
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...es-stories-of-our-flock.1286630/post-27299974
I am happy to hear Princess is adjusting. I know chickens are flock animals and do better with companions but she can also have a good life solo. Ole Momma Hen was wild and alone for a few years before she was tamed. She was also solo for the additional year it took to semi-tame her and she was allowed to hatch her first group of chicks. Ole Momma is 10 at least now and I still say the bat is is partially wild and not 100% tame and never will be. As long as Princess is eating and has you for companionship she will be ok.Princess has had a lovely afternoon and has eaten well. She's coming to me more now
I've looked and being in the top rip off country I can only find no salt at £60 plus pounds.I am able to find sardines in water with no salt added on Amazon.
Yogurt with acidophilus types is what I would give her, several bites each day if she likes it. And what @Ponypoor write, soft food possibly. I don’t know where tapeworms hang out but the gizzard could be inflamed too. In the poultry dvm online they write fenbendazole works on some types of tapeworms but not all. So she’s going through two courses, whatever the side effects are. Make sure she’s drinking at least.
@ManueB What @Ponypoor wrote I have read about also, but I will add I thought it also becomes a systemic issue - so if there is a very heavy load of worms then you don’t want them all dying at once inside the chicken. I read a recommendation to go slowly with the treatment, in fact not aiming to kill all of them all at once. Maybe in two separate courses with some recovery time between?
I’m not sure what the mechanism is that causes problems but if it’s a heavy load it’s a lot of dead tissue for the intestines to deal with, and I think the other organs too, suddenly all of that piled up wherever they are, the body having to process it, and whatever byproducts of uncontrolled decay, not the normal digestion, are getting into the bloodstream too.
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Thank you my friend. I don't think she'll adapt anywhere else and she's squating down for me to pick her up. She's settling into my lap a few times a day to just look around.I am happy to hear Princess is adjusting. I know chickens are flock animals and do better with companions but she can also have a good life solo. Ole Momma Hen was wild and alone for a few years before she was tamed. She was also solo for the additional year it took to semi-tame her and she was allowed to hatch her first group of chicks. Ole Momma is 10 at least now and I still say the bat is is partially wild and not 100% tame and never will be. As long as Princess is eating and has you for companionship she will be ok.
Even in the US it is more expensive but not that expensive! Too bad. Soaking no salt oil sardines sounds fine.I've looked and being in the top rip off country I can only find no salt at £60 plus pounds.
I going to attempt soaking these in plain water tomorrow to see if I can soak off tye oil. .
Heris a little firmer this afternoon and I wormed her a few days ago.
Fingers crossed Hazel's eye heals quickly. Bob will probably find a couple of solutionsHazel has bubbles in her left eye this morning, so I am extending her treatment by another couple of days. I think Bob mentioned it could be ten days is needed in some cases, I will check. Drats!
Thanks. I'll soak them and place them in the fridge overnight. First hot water then cold.Even in the US it is more expensive but not that expensive! Too bad. Soaking no salt oil sardines sounds fine.